From: "Henrik Rydberg" <rydberg@euromail.se>
To: "Chung-Yih Wang (王崇懿)" <cywang@google.com>
Cc: Chase Douglas <chase.douglas@canonical.com>,
Daniel Kurtz <djkurtz@chromium.org>,
Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
JJ Ding <dgdunix@gmail.com>,
linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Input: synaptics - use firmware data for Cr-48
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 09:25:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120720072510.GA986@polaris.bitmath.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM2ehZaLeJsxCOkqLv9jSko9y3Awix1jjobfTo5WQj8rcrYquA@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 11:14:25AM +0800, Chung-Yih Wang (王崇懿) wrote:
> From our experiments, the assumption of "the slowest corner is the
> stationary finger" is not always true. That is the major reason we want to
> report the firmware data instead of semi-mt.
Oh, but that was precisely the point; the reason it does not hold true
is due to sensor and discretization errors. If we can improve upon
this situation, we get a better model of reality.
> The problem here will be how
> to remove the pulling effect, we measured the pulling effect before and can
> not get a good result as there could be IIR in firmware as well. It seems
> not an easy job to remove the pulling effect cleanly.
Probably a simple filter will work. If the bounding box is moving too
fast for the tracked point to stay in the right corner, the solution
is to use a smaller time step. In practise, keeping the tracked point
as a state in the driver, and updating the bounding box using box ->
(1 - m) box + m box_new. If the tracked point is in the right corner,
let m = 1. If not, choose a smaller m.
> > > * Add a new device property (INVALID_Y_AXIS_CROSSING?) that
> > > describes the exact behavior of this device. I would be ok with this
> > > if everyone else is, but only because proper clickpad behavior
> > > (which I consider very importand) is broken without this knowledge.
> >
> Sounds good to me(but I would rather to have INVALID_CROSSING instead,
> depending on the relative finger positions, it could still have wrong
> tracking either in X or Y axis crossing)
Propagating information about various sensor defects to userspace
sounds horrid to me. The sooner we can forget about these devices, the
better.
> > > * Leave the device as SEMI_MT, but provide the real locations, and
> > > allow userspace to determine the device vendor/model/etc. If
> > > userspace knows that a specific device behaves in a specific way, it
> > > can do its own quirking handling. Given the specificity of this
> > > behavior to only some devices of one brand, this would be my
> > > suggested resolution to the issue.
> >
>
> A bit confused here, do you mean we report the real locations instead of
> bounding box the current driver have? I am not quite sure if this will
> affect other existing works in userspace for this semi-mt driver.
I am not entirely opposed to this solution, but I would much rather
see an attempt to improve the bounding box in the driver, since such a
solution could be useful for other devices as well.
Thanks,
Henrik
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-20 7:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-18 10:22 [PATCH v2] Input: synaptics - use firmware data for Cr-48 Chung-yih Wang
2012-07-18 15:38 ` Chase Douglas
[not found] ` <CAM2ehZbftDja6CBGjhL3Jp+30DtYJj+8_4e=_wWcj3pCDGD7AA@mail.gmail.com>
2012-07-19 6:42 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-07-19 13:14 ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-07-19 16:16 ` Chase Douglas
2012-07-19 17:05 ` Daniel Kurtz
2012-07-19 17:34 ` Chase Douglas
2012-07-19 18:44 ` Henrik Rydberg
[not found] ` <CAM2ehZaLeJsxCOkqLv9jSko9y3Awix1jjobfTo5WQj8rcrYquA@mail.gmail.com>
2012-07-20 7:25 ` Henrik Rydberg [this message]
2012-07-20 9:03 ` Daniel Kurtz
2012-07-20 13:03 ` Henrik Rydberg
2012-07-20 18:31 ` Chase Douglas
2012-07-27 10:40 ` Daniel Kurtz
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