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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	Michael Wang <wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: RCU idle CPU detection is broken in linux-next
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:26:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120926162649.GB2467@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFTL4hwuQ-smZiH46KCqAw7+01J7aLmthbjL5_Mg9kHJ4CBzuw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 04:56:55PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> 2012/9/25 Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>:
> > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 01:59:26PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> >> Given that we have:
> >>
> >> rcu_irq_enter()
> >>       rcu_user_exit()
> >>       rcu_user_enter()
> >> rcu_irq_exit()
> >
> > Indeed, the code to deal with irq misnestings won't like that at all.
> > And we are in the kernel between rcu_user_exit() and rcu_user_enter()
> > (right?), so we could in fact see irq misnestings.
> 
> Exactly.
> 
> >> And we already have rcu_user_exit_after_irq(), this starts to be confusing
> >> if we allow that nesting. Although if we find a solution that, in the end,
> >> merge rcu_user_exit() with rcu_user_exit_after_irq() and same for the enter version,
> >> this would probably be a good thing. Provided this doesn't involve some more
> >> complicated rdtp->dyntick_nesting trickies nor more overhead.
> >>
> >> Otherwise we could avoid to call rcu_user_* when we are in an irq. When we'll have
> >> the user_hooks layer, we can perhaps manage that from that place. For
> >> now may be we can return after in_interrupt() in the rcu user apis.
> >
> > This last sounds best.
> 
> Ok.
> 
> > My main concern is irq misnesting.  We might need to do something ugly
> > like record the interrupt nesting level at rcu_user_exit() and restore
> > it at rcu_user_enter().  Sigh!!!
> 
> Right, but that doesn't seem to apply in x86? I suggest we start
> simple and think
> about some wider solution when more architecture implement this.

Fair enough -- for one thing, we will better understand what is required
when the problems are actually encountered.  Which will hopefully be
sooner rather than later.  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-26 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-12 17:56 RCU idle CPU detection is broken in linux-next Sasha Levin
2012-09-19 15:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-19 16:35   ` Sasha Levin
2012-09-19 17:06     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-19 22:27       ` Sasha Levin
2012-09-20  7:33       ` Michael Wang
2012-09-20  7:44         ` Sasha Levin
2012-09-20  8:14           ` Michael Wang
2012-09-20 15:23           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-21  9:30             ` Sasha Levin
2012-09-21 12:13               ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-21 13:26                 ` Sasha Levin
2012-09-21 15:12                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-21 15:18                     ` Sasha Levin
2012-09-22  8:26                       ` Sasha Levin
2012-09-22 15:09                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-22 15:20                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-22 15:40                           ` Sasha Levin
2012-09-22 15:56                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-22 17:50                               ` Sasha Levin
2012-09-22 21:27                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-23  0:21                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-23  5:39                                     ` Sasha Levin
2012-09-24 21:29                                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-09-24 22:47                                         ` Sasha Levin
2012-09-24 22:54                                           ` Sasha Levin
2012-09-24 23:06                                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-09-24 23:10                                               ` Sasha Levin
2012-09-24 23:35                                                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-09-24 23:41                                                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-09-25  4:04                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-25 11:59                                                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-09-25 13:04                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-26 14:56                                                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-09-26 16:26                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2012-09-25 12:06                                                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-09-25 18:28                                                   ` Sasha Levin
2012-09-25 18:36                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-26 15:46                                                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-09-26 16:59                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-26 14:58                                                     ` Frederic Weisbecker

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