From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] make CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL invisible and default
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 06:25:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121003132538.GE13192@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121002195042.GA16087@www.outflux.net>
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 12:50:42PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> This config item has not carried much meaning for a while now and is
> almost always enabled by default. As agreed during the Linux kernel
> summit, it should be removed. As a first step, remove it from being
> listed, and default it to on. Once it has been removed from all
> subsystem Kconfigs, it will be dropped entirely.
>
> CC: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
> CC: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
> CC: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>
> CC: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> CC: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> CC: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
> Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
> ---
>
> This is the first of a series of 202 patches removing EXPERIMENTAL from
> all the Kconfigs in the tree. Should I send them all to lkml (with all
> the associated CCs), or do people want to cherry-pick changes from my
> tree? I don't want to needlessly flood the list.
>
> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/kees/linux.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/experimental
>
> I figure this patch can stand alone to at least make EXPERIMENTAL go
> away from the menus, and give us a taste of what the removal would do
> to builds.
OK, I will bite... How should I flag an option that is initially only
intended for those willing to take some level of risk?
Thanx, Paul
> Thanks,
>
> -Kees
>
> ---
> init/Kconfig | 31 ++-----------------------------
> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 29 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/init/Kconfig b/init/Kconfig
> index cb003a3..f6f8146 100644
> --- a/init/Kconfig
> +++ b/init/Kconfig
> @@ -33,35 +33,8 @@ config BUILDTIME_EXTABLE_SORT
> menu "General setup"
>
> config EXPERIMENTAL
> - bool "Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers"
> - ---help---
> - Some of the various things that Linux supports (such as network
> - drivers, file systems, network protocols, etc.) can be in a state
> - of development where the functionality, stability, or the level of
> - testing is not yet high enough for general use. This is usually
> - known as the "alpha-test" phase among developers. If a feature is
> - currently in alpha-test, then the developers usually discourage
> - uninformed widespread use of this feature by the general public to
> - avoid "Why doesn't this work?" type mail messages. However, active
> - testing and use of these systems is welcomed. Just be aware that it
> - may not meet the normal level of reliability or it may fail to work
> - in some special cases. Detailed bug reports from people familiar
> - with the kernel internals are usually welcomed by the developers
> - (before submitting bug reports, please read the documents
> - <file:README>, <file:MAINTAINERS>, <file:REPORTING-BUGS>,
> - <file:Documentation/BUG-HUNTING>, and
> - <file:Documentation/oops-tracing.txt> in the kernel source).
> -
> - This option will also make obsoleted drivers available. These are
> - drivers that have been replaced by something else, and/or are
> - scheduled to be removed in a future kernel release.
> -
> - Unless you intend to help test and develop a feature or driver that
> - falls into this category, or you have a situation that requires
> - using these features, you should probably say N here, which will
> - cause the configurator to present you with fewer choices. If
> - you say Y here, you will be offered the choice of using features or
> - drivers that are currently considered to be in the alpha-test phase.
> + bool
> + default y
>
> config BROKEN
> bool
> --
> 1.7.9.5
>
>
> --
> Kees Cook
> Chrome OS Security
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-03 15:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-02 19:50 [PATCH] make CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL invisible and default Kees Cook
2012-10-02 21:40 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2012-10-03 13:25 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2012-10-03 16:15 ` Kees Cook
2012-10-03 16:43 ` Josh Boyer
2012-10-03 16:16 ` Serge Hallyn
2012-10-03 16:17 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-10-03 16:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03 17:21 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-10-03 17:46 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-10-03 18:23 ` Josh Boyer
2012-10-03 19:36 ` Dave Jones
2012-10-03 20:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03 21:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-10-04 14:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03 17:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03 18:02 ` Serge Hallyn
2012-10-03 18:43 ` Kees Cook
2012-10-03 19:07 ` david
2012-10-03 20:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03 22:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-10-04 0:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-04 1:55 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-10-04 14:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-05 16:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-06 16:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-10-07 1:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-07 2:33 ` Dave Airlie
2012-10-07 16:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-07 20:18 ` Dave Jones
2012-10-08 1:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-08 22:07 ` Kees Cook
2012-10-08 22:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-08 22:37 ` Kees Cook
2012-10-08 22:40 ` Kees Cook
2012-10-08 22:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-08 23:23 ` Kees Cook
2012-10-03 21:31 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-10-08 22:08 ` Kees Cook
2012-10-08 23:53 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-10-09 0:46 ` Kees Cook
2012-10-09 1:20 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-10-09 1:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-09 1:57 ` Kees Cook
2012-10-09 2:47 ` Stephen Rothwell
2012-10-09 6:01 ` Kees Cook
2012-12-16 4:29 ` Jan Engelhardt
2012-12-16 16:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03 23:29 ` Guenter Roeck
2012-10-03 23:33 ` Kees Cook
2012-10-03 23:37 ` Guenter Roeck
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