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From: Kent Overstreet <koverstreet@google.com>
To: Zach Brown <zab@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, tytso@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] aio: vmap ringbuffer
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 15:44:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121009224428.GH29494@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121009223210.GR26187@lenny.home.zabbo.net>

On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 03:32:10PM -0700, Zach Brown wrote:
> > If it is measurable I'll take another stab at using memory from
> > __get_free_pages() for the ringbuffer. That really would be the ideal
> > solution.
> 
> No, then you'll run into high order allocation failures with rings that
> don't fit in a single page.

Not if we decouple the ringbuffer size from max_requests.

This would be useful to do anyways because right now, allocating a kiocb
has to take a global refcount and check head and tail in the ringbuffer
just so it can avoid overflowing the ringbuffer.

If we change aio_complete() so that if the ringbuffer is full then the
kiocb just goes on a linked list - we can size the ringbuffer so this
doesn't happen normally and avoid the global synchronization in the fast
path.

> > The other reason I wanted to do this was for the aio attributes stuff -
> > for return values, I think the only sane way is for the return values to
> > go in the ringbuffer, which means records are no longer fixed size so
> > dealing with pages is even more of a pain.
> 
> Then let's see that, please.

I was starting on that, but then I got sidetracked with refactoring...
:P

> And can we please stop calling them attributes?  They're inputs and
> outputs that change behaviour -- they're interfaces.

Attributes isn't a good name but neither is interfaces, because they
don't exist on their own; they're always attached to some other
interface.

I dunno.

> And no, just for the record, I don't think generic packed variable size
> structs are worth the trouble.
> 
> If we're going to do a generic interface extension mechanism then we
> should put it in its own well thought out system calls, not staple it on
> to the side of aio because it's there.  It's a really crummy base to
> work from.

Not arguing with you about aio, but most of the use cases I have for it
want aio.

So unless we're going to deprecate the existing aio interfaces and make
something better (I wouldn't complain about that!) I do need to make it
work with aio.

Not that I'm opposed to new syscalls passing attributes to sync versions
of read/write/etc, I just haven't started that yet or really thought
about it.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-09 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-09  6:39 [PATCH 1/5] aio: Kill return value of aio_complete() Kent Overstreet
2012-10-09  6:39 ` [PATCH 2/5] aio: kiocb_cancel() Kent Overstreet
2012-10-09 18:26   ` Zach Brown
2012-10-09 21:37     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-10-10 11:03       ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-10 21:20         ` Zach Brown
2012-10-10 23:21           ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-11  2:41         ` Kent Overstreet
2012-10-09  6:39 ` [PATCH 3/5] aio: Rewrite refcounting Kent Overstreet
2012-10-09 18:27   ` Zach Brown
2012-10-09 22:21     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-10-09 22:35       ` Zach Brown
2012-10-10  0:17         ` Kent Overstreet
2012-10-09  6:39 ` [PATCH 4/5] aio: vmap ringbuffer Kent Overstreet
2012-10-09 18:29   ` Zach Brown
2012-10-09 21:31     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-10-09 22:32       ` Zach Brown
2012-10-09 22:44         ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2012-10-09 22:58           ` Zach Brown
2012-10-10  0:16             ` Kent Overstreet
2012-10-10  0:36               ` Zach Brown
2012-10-10  1:09                 ` Kent Overstreet
2012-10-09  6:39 ` [PATCH 5/5] aio: Refactor aio_read_evt, use cmxchg(), fix bug Kent Overstreet
2012-10-09 18:37   ` Zach Brown
2012-10-09 21:27     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-10-09 22:47       ` Zach Brown
2012-10-09 22:55         ` Kent Overstreet
2012-10-09 23:10           ` Zach Brown
2012-10-10  0:06             ` Kent Overstreet
2012-10-10  0:26               ` Zach Brown
2012-10-10  0:47                 ` Kent Overstreet
2012-10-10 21:43                   ` Zach Brown
2012-10-11  2:51                     ` Kent Overstreet
2012-10-11 16:43                       ` Zach Brown
2012-10-09 18:25 ` [PATCH 1/5] aio: Kill return value of aio_complete() Zach Brown

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