From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933141Ab2JWSki (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:40:38 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:49771 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756833Ab2JWSkh (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:40:37 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:41:23 +0200 From: Oleg Nesterov To: "Paul E. McKenney" Cc: Mikulas Patocka , Linus Torvalds , Ingo Molnar , Peter Zijlstra , Srikar Dronamraju , Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli , Anton Arapov , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] percpu-rw-semaphores: use light/heavy barriers Message-ID: <20121023184123.GB24055@redhat.com> References: <20121017165902.GB9872@redhat.com> <20121017224430.GC2518@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20121018162409.GA28504@redhat.com> <20121018163833.GK2518@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20121018175747.GA30691@redhat.com> <20121019192838.GM2518@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20121023165912.GA18712@redhat.com> <20121023180558.GF2585@linux.vnet.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121023180558.GF2585@linux.vnet.ibm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 10/23, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > * Note that this guarantee implies a further memory-ordering guarantee. > * On systems with more than one CPU, when synchronize_sched() returns, > * each CPU is guaranteed to have executed a full memory barrier since > * the end of its last RCU read-side critical section ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ah wait... I misread this comment. But this patch needs more? Or I misunderstood. There is no RCU unlock in percpu_up_read(). IOW. Suppose the code does percpu_down_read(); x = PROTECTED_BY_THIS_RW_SEM; percpu_up_read(); Withoit mb() the load above can be reordered with this_cpu_dec() in percpu_up_read(). However, we do not care if we can guarantee that the next percpu_down_write() can not return (iow, the next "write" section can not start) until this load is complete. And I _think_ that another synchronize_sched() in percpu_down_write() added by this patch should work. But, "since the end of its last RCU read-side critical section" does not look enough. Or I misundersood you/Mikulas/both ? Oleg.