From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757935Ab2JXHuS (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:50:18 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-f174.google.com ([74.125.82.174]:41057 "EHLO mail-we0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755709Ab2JXHuP (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:50:15 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:50:10 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Andi Kleen , x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, acme@redhat.com, eranian@google.com, Andi Kleen Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/34] perf, x86: Report PEBS event in a raw format Message-ID: <20121024075010.GC25872@gmail.com> References: <1350602382-12771-1-git-send-email-andi@firstfloor.org> <1350602382-12771-6-git-send-email-andi@firstfloor.org> <1350995474.13456.12.camel@twins> <20121023133000.GX16230@one.firstfloor.org> <1351000250.13456.34.camel@twins> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1351000250.13456.34.camel@twins> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * Peter Zijlstra wrote: > I never can seem to figure out how to use the scripts mess :/ > acme, is there anything we could do to make that stuff usable? > There's a ton of crap under scripts/ but I don't even know how > to get that stuff to run. > > What's more, all that nonsense is in weird languages I don't > do either, making it less useful than usual. > > In short, I don't consider script/ to be proper userspace > since its bloody useless. We should not queue new kernel bits up until there's meaningful, well working user-space support for it in the primary tools. Thanks, Ingo