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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	rjw@sisk.pl, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mhocko@suse.cz,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] cgroup: deprecate clone_children
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 11:26:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121105192636.GG19354@mtj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121105191714.GA24560@sergelap>

Hello, Serge.

On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 01:17:14PM -0600, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> > As this is unnecessary feature with very limited use and awkward in
> 
> clone_children is currently required by lxc.  Of course lxc could
> manually set the .cpus and .mems in the newly created child, but if
> those interfaces or others like it ever change (i.e. any new ones which
> must be set before a task can join a cgroup) we'll get into yet more of
> a rats nets of code to support different kernel versions.

If lxc is using it, this will have to stay then.  I'll try to make it
a cpuset specific thing.

> (Just as an idea, if there was a way to generically tell from the list
> of files in my cgroups dir which files need to be initialized before a
> task can join, I think that would suffice.  Maybe a cgroups.needssetup
> file which right now contains 'cpuset.mems\ncpuset.cpus'. Then if we
> find a file we don't recognize in there we can throw an intelligent
> error, or guess at duplicating the parent value.)

Hmmm... I think the root problem is that different controllers don't
agree on the way they inherit configurations from parents.  cgroup
really is a trainwreck.  :(

I don't know whether "needssetup" is the right way to deal with it.
I'll think more about it.

> > co-mounted use cases, let's try to deprecate it.  Whine on the mount
> > option and accesses to cgroupfs knobs.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
> > Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> > ---
> > Glauber, I think this is more befitting change for .post_clone().  If
> 
> What do you mean by that?  That he is working on a patch-set which will
> remove post_clone and this belongs there, or that there is a proposed
> alternative?

The former.  There was a patchset from Glauber updating ->post_clone()
(which didn't change the behavior).

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-05 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-03  8:38 [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.8] cgroup_freezer: implement proper hierarchy support Tejun Heo
2012-11-03  8:38 ` [PATCH 1/9] cgroup: add cgroup_subsys->post_create() Tejun Heo
2012-11-05 13:42   ` Glauber Costa
2012-11-05 18:02     ` [RFC] cgroup: deprecate clone_children Tejun Heo
2012-11-05 19:17       ` Serge Hallyn
2012-11-05 19:26         ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2012-11-07 15:25   ` [PATCH 1/9] cgroup: add cgroup_subsys->post_create() Michal Hocko
2012-11-07 17:02     ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-07 17:15   ` [PATCH 1/9 v2] " Tejun Heo
2012-11-07 17:40     ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-08  2:59     ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-08 19:07   ` [PATCH 1/9 v3] " Tejun Heo
2012-11-09  9:09     ` Li Zefan
2012-11-09  9:09     ` Li Zefan
2012-11-09 11:09     ` Daniel Wagner
2012-11-09 17:22       ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-10  1:35         ` Glauber Costa
2012-11-12 13:04         ` Daniel Wagner
2012-11-03  8:38 ` [PATCH 2/9] cgroup: Use rculist ops for cgroup->children Tejun Heo
2012-11-07 15:30   ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-08  3:01   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-09  9:10   ` Li Zefan
2012-11-03  8:38 ` [PATCH 3/9] cgroup: implement generic child / descendant walk macros Tejun Heo
2012-11-06 20:31   ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-07 15:38     ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-07 16:54   ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-07 17:01     ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-07 17:49       ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-08  3:21   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-08  9:50   ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-08 17:15     ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-08 17:59   ` [PATCH 3/9 v2] " Tejun Heo
2012-11-09  9:13     ` Li Zefan
2012-11-03  8:38 ` [PATCH 4/9] cgroup_freezer: trivial cleanups Tejun Heo
2012-11-08  3:24   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-08  9:53   ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-03  8:38 ` [PATCH 5/9] cgroup_freezer: prepare freezer_change_state() for full hierarchy support Tejun Heo
2012-11-08  4:25   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-08  9:56   ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-03  8:38 ` [PATCH 6/9] cgroup_freezer: make freezer->state mask of flags Tejun Heo
2012-11-08  4:37   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-08  4:42     ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-08  5:00       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-08 14:38         ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-08 10:39   ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-08 14:39     ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-08 14:47       ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-03  8:38 ` [PATCH 7/9] cgroup_freezer: introduce CGROUP_FREEZING_[SELF|PARENT] Tejun Heo
2012-11-08  4:42   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-08  4:45     ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-08  4:56       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-08 14:41         ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-08 12:47   ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-08 14:42     ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-03  8:38 ` [PATCH 8/9] cgroup_freezer: add ->post_create() and ->pre_destroy() and track online state Tejun Heo
2012-11-08  4:48   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-08 15:41     ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-08 13:23   ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-08 17:17     ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-03  8:38 ` [PATCH 9/9] cgroup_freezer: implement proper hierarchy support Tejun Heo
2012-11-07 11:00   ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-07 16:31     ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-07 16:39   ` [PATCH 9/9 v2] " Tejun Heo
2012-11-08 14:08     ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-08 14:18       ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-08 15:20         ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-08 15:29           ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-08 15:57             ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-08 17:57   ` [PATCH 9/9 v3] " Tejun Heo
2012-11-08 18:02     ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-08 18:04       ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-08 18:08         ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-08 18:01 ` [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.8] " Tejun Heo
2012-11-09 17:15 ` Tejun Heo

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