From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: Kirill Smelkov <kirr@mns.spb.ru>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Tell the world we gave up on pushing CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 19:10:40 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121124001040.GA29164@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121122081041.GA380@tugrik.mns.mnsspb.ru>
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:10:41PM +0400, Kirill Smelkov wrote:
> Linus, maybe you missed this. What is the reason telling people
> CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE should be Y if we actually do otherwise?
>
>
> commit 281dc5c5ec0fb299514567cbc358562649c1af95
> Author: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
> Date: Sun May 22 14:30:36 2011 -0700
>
> Give up on pushing CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE
>
> I still happen to believe that I$ miss costs are a major thing, but
> sadly, -Os doesn't seem to be the solution. With or without it, gcc
> will miss some obvious code size improvements, and with it enabled gcc
> will sometimes make choices that aren't good even with high I$ miss
> ratios.
>
> For example, with -Os, gcc on x86 will turn a 20-byte constant memcpy
> into a "rep movsl". While I sincerely hope that x86 CPU's will some day
> do a good job at that, they certainly don't do it yet, and the cost is
> higher than a L1 I$ miss would be.
>
> Some day I hope we can re-enable this.
>
> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
>
> diff --git a/init/Kconfig b/init/Kconfig
> index 4986ecc..ffcdad7 100644
> --- a/init/Kconfig
> +++ b/init/Kconfig
> @@ -908,7 +908,6 @@ endif
>
> config CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE
> bool "Optimize for size"
> - default y
> help
> Enabling this option will pass "-Os" instead of "-O2" to gcc
> resulting in a smaller kernel.
FWIW, we gave up using this in Fedora quite a few releases back because we
kept finding workloads that it truly sucked on.
For code that is quite bloaty and not particularly performance critical,
maybe we could move -Os to individual directories.
Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-24 0:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-02 11:41 [PATCH] Tell the world we gave up on pushing CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE Kirill Smelkov
2012-11-22 8:10 ` Kirill Smelkov
2012-11-24 0:10 ` Dave Jones [this message]
2013-01-17 8:58 ` Borislav Petkov
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