From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754435Ab2LFBOJ (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Dec 2012 20:14:09 -0500 Received: from ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net ([150.101.137.141]:36032 "EHLO ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754400Ab2LFBOH (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Dec 2012 20:14:07 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlMMAJfwv1B5LLKS/2dsb2JhbABEuCaGABdzgh4BAQU6HBIGCxAIAxguFCUDIROID8JnFIwjg2BhA5YCkEiDBg Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 12:14:02 +1100 From: Dave Chinner To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Martin Steigerwald , Linux Kernel Mailing List , "Theodore Ts'o" , linux-fsdevel Subject: Re: [PATCH, 3.7-rc7, RESEND] fs: revert commit bbdd6808 to fallocate UAPI Message-ID: <20121206011402.GB27172@dastard> References: <1353366267-15629-1-git-send-email-david@fromorbit.com> <201212051148.28039.Martin@lichtvoll.de> <201212051718.44017.Martin@lichtvoll.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 10:25:17AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > Yes, people can argue that "process" is about technical issues too, > but let's be honest: our process is fluid. Not everything gets > reviewed on the mailing list, and people *do* talk about things > face-to-face at conferences. Yes, that is true. But we don't review code at conferences. We have mailing lists for that. I've lost count of the number of times I've heard "post your code" or "let's take it to the list" or "better to discuss this on the list where everyone can comment" at conferences such as Plumbers. It's a standard practise - talk at conferences, review on mailing lists. And for changes to syscalls? That's something that must be peer reviewed because we are going to be stuck with those changes forever as we can't undo them at a later date. It doesn't matter who made the change in question, I would have done exactly the same thing.... Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Chinner david@fromorbit.com