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From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@fusionio.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Chris Mason <clmason@fusionio.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Martin Steigerwald <Martin@lichtvoll.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH, 3.7-rc7, RESEND] fs: revert commit bbdd6808 to fallocate UAPI
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 20:39:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121208013949.GD25713@shiny> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121208001705.GO27172@dastard>

On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 05:17:05PM -0700, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 02:03:06PM -0500, Chris Mason wrote:

[ dead and beaten fallocate ponies ]

> 
> > On a single flash drive doing random 4K writes, xfs does 950MB/s into
> > regular extents but only 400MB/s into preallocated extents.
> > 
> > http://masoncoding.com/presentation/perf-linuxcon12/fallocate.png
> 
> This is bordering on irrelevancy, but can you provide the workload
> you were running to generate this graph?  Random 4k writes could be
> anything, really.

This one was fio aio/dio, I'll dig out the job file and rerun it on
3.7-rc on Monday.  Any real random write is going to show this with
enough load.

> 
> In my experience, applications that actually do processing between
> random write IOs don't see anywhere near the same degradation as
> such micro-benchmarks tend to indicate can occur with unwritten
> extents. Are you seeing this level of degradation in real-world applications?
> If you give me a reason to fix it (and the hardware to test it on),
> I'm pretty sure I can bring the overhead down to just a few percent
> on fully featured SSDs like FusionIO devices...

We should have a card I can send, drop me the address.

For the workload...that's harder.  We can talk all day about what a
normal random write workload is, but if you have a fio job that you
think represents real world, I can run that.

[ much nodding ;) ]

  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-08  1:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-19 23:04 [PATCH] fs: revert commit bbdd6808 to fallocate UAPI Dave Chinner
2012-11-20 16:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-11-26  0:28 ` [PATCH, 3.7-rc7, RESEND] " Dave Chinner
2012-11-26  2:55   ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-11-26  6:14     ` Tao Ma
2012-11-26  9:12     ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-05 10:48       ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-12-05 15:45         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-12-05 16:18           ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-12-05 16:33             ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-05 17:24               ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-12-05 17:34                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-05 17:55                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-12-06  0:42                   ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-06  9:24                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-12-05 18:25             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-12-06  1:14               ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-06  3:03                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-12-06  9:37                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-12-07  1:08                     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-12-07  2:40                       ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-07 10:24                       ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-12-06 12:06                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-12-06 16:50                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-07  1:57                     ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-06 12:05           ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-12-07  1:16             ` Ingo Molnar
2012-12-07  3:19               ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-07 17:36               ` Ric Wheeler
2012-12-07 18:18                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-12-07 19:03                   ` Chris Mason
2012-12-07 20:43                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-07 21:09                       ` Chris Mason
2012-12-07 21:27                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-07 21:43                           ` Chris Mason
2012-12-07 21:49                             ` Ric Wheeler
2012-12-07 21:57                               ` Chris Mason
2012-12-07 22:51                                 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-12-07 22:52                                 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-12-07 21:42                         ` Ric Wheeler
2012-12-07 21:57                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-07 22:02                             ` Ric Wheeler
2012-12-08  0:39                               ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-08  2:52                                 ` Joel Becker
2012-12-08  4:04                                   ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-08  0:17                     ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-08  1:39                       ` Chris Mason [this message]
2012-12-10 16:02                         ` Chris Mason
2012-12-10 17:37                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-10 18:05                         ` Steven Whitehouse
2012-12-10 18:13                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-10 18:20                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-11 12:16                               ` Steven Whitehouse
2012-12-11 22:09                                 ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-10 18:52                         ` Ric Wheeler
2012-12-11  0:52                         ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-07 19:30                   ` Steven Rostedt
2012-12-07 21:14                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-07 21:47                       ` Ric Wheeler
2012-12-07 23:25                         ` Howard Chu
2012-12-08  0:50                           ` Dave Chinner
2012-12-08 13:52                             ` Howard Chu
2012-12-08 14:02                               ` Ric Wheeler
2012-12-07 22:01                       ` Eric Sandeen
2012-12-09 21:37                       ` Ric Wheeler
2012-11-26 11:53     ` Alan Cox
2012-11-26 14:43       ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-11-26 21:12       ` Dave Chinner
2012-11-27 13:44         ` Martin Steigerwald

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