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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	pschiffe@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] open(2): document O_PATH
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 18:52:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130108185202.GA22857@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120503141156.GP6871@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 03:11:56PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 07:34:35PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> 
> > I looked at dnotify_flush, they remove markers on an inode.
> > But then it also checks for filp to match. So I am not sure
> > whether skipping dnotify_flush for O_PATH descriptor have any impact. We
> > can't use O_PATH descriptor for dnotify fcntl any way. So in
> > dnotify_flush we will not match the filp.
> > 
> > Viro,
> > 
> > Any reason why we skip dnotify_flush  ?
> 
> See your last sentence above - why bother finding the mark, scanning the
> list, etc. when we know that there won't be any matches?

[Apologies for replying to the wrong posting, but this is the closest thing
thread-wise to what I wanted to reply to that I've got sitting in my mailbox]

The rules are:
	* syscalls acting purely on descriptor level are allowed - close(),
dup(), dup2(), dup3(), fcntl(F_DUPFD{,_CLOEXEC}), fcntl(F_[SG]ETFD),
fcntl(F_GETFL), passing descriptors in SCM_RIGHTS datagrams)
	* syscalls using the descriptor just to indicate a location in
the tree - *at() family, fchdir(), fstat()
The list might get expanded - for example, fstatfs() arguably belongs to the
second group.  The approach had been conservative - the second group gets
expanded on per-case basis.  E.g. anything requiring the file to have
been opened for write is *not* a candidate, so it really has to be reviewed
separately for each syscall of that sort.

As far as dnotify and POSIX locks go, close() (and replacing dup2(), etc.)
are irrelevant - the rules are exactly as usual.  All dnotify watches or
POSIX locks associated with that opened file get evicted; it's just that
there is no way to *set* them on O_PATH descriptors in the first place.
We might eventually allow fcntl(F_NOTIFY) on them, but I'm not sure there's
any good reason to do so; allowing to use them for setting POSIX locks is
almost certainly a bad idea wrt security.

The test in filp_close() is just an optimization - if/when we allow F_NOTIFY
on O_PATH descriptors, the same commit will need to make the call of
dnotify_flush() in filp_open() unconditional.  All there is to it...

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-08 18:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1335669917-23970-1-git-send-email-vapier@gentoo.org>
2012-04-29 21:39 ` [PATCH] open(2): document O_PATH Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-04-30  7:39   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2012-04-30 11:44     ` Ted Ts'o
2012-05-03  6:48       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-05-03  8:27       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2012-05-03 13:07         ` Ted Ts'o
2012-05-03 13:20           ` Al Viro
2012-05-06  1:00         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-03  6:47     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-05-03 14:04       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2012-05-03 14:11         ` Al Viro
2012-05-05 11:31           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-01-08 18:52           ` Al Viro [this message]
2013-03-14  9:35 Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-07-20 11:40 ` Al Viro
2013-07-20 20:56   ` Michael Kerrisk
2013-07-22  8:46     ` Peter Schiffer
2013-07-22 10:45       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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