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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Issues with "x86, um: switch to generic fork/vfork/clone" commit
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 06:02:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130121060229.GT4939@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwPM3qWE7F7nwUVKphVTJb7WE7zPF5artdVw7Xq5Z1UgQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 06:39:09PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> And right now, that HAVE_SYSCALL_WRAPPERS does make it much harder to
> think about the header file changes.

Agreed.

> > FWIW, there's another bit of ugliness around that area - all these
> > #define __SC_BLAH3, etc., all of the same form.  This stuff begs for
> > something like
> > #define __MAP1(m,t,a) m(t,a)
> > #define __MAP2(m,t,a,...) m(t,a) __MAP1(m,__VA_ARGS__)
> > #define __MAP3(m,t,a,...) m(t,a) __MAP2(m,__VA_ARGS__)
> > #define __MAP4(m,t,a,...) m(t,a) __MAP3(m,__VA_ARGS__)
> > #define __MAP5(m,t,a,...) m(t,a) __MAP4(m,__VA_ARGS__)
> > #define __MAP6(m,t,a,...) m(t,a) __MAP5(m,__VA_ARGS__)
> > #define __MAP(n,...) __MAP##n(__VA_ARGS__)
> > with __MAP(x,__SC_DECL,__VA_ARGS__) instead of __SC_DECL##x(__VA_ARGS__)
> > etc. in users...

... with missing commas added, of course.

> Well, I can see both sides. The above is the nice and dense
> declaration model with less duplication, but christ, it's hard for
> people to wrap their minds around unless they've seen it a million
> times. It really does take some getting used to, and the long-form can
> be easier to understand.

Umm...  Even with
/*
 * __MAP - apply a given macro to all syscall arguments.
 * __MAP(n, m, t1, a1, ..., tn, an) will expand to
 *      m(t1,a1), m(t2,a2), ..., m(tn, an)
 * Note that the first argument of __MAP must be equal to the number of
 * type, name pairs in the list.  The list itself (all arguments of __MAP
 * starting with the 3rd one) is in the form we pass to SYSCALL_DEFINE<n>.
 */
slapped on top of it?

> That said, we have so many of those things now when it comes to the
> syscall stuff that the dense form seems to be called for just to be
> consistent.
> 
> So go wild if you have the energy for it. I'm not going to pull that
> for 3.8, though.

No, that's obviously next cycle fodder, along with the sick tricks for
generating compat wrappers on s390 if Martin can live with those.

BTW, grep for asmlinkage; it's amazing how much cargo-culting is going
on with it ;-/  Some of the instances are syscalls yet to be converted
to SYSCALL_DEFINE<n>; even more of COMPAT_SYSCALL_DEFINE<n>-to-be.  We
also have a bunch of declarations in syscalls.h and compat.h - those
are fine.  _Some_ of the rest might be legitimate - ia64 and i386 have
non-trivial asmlinkage expansion and some (but not all) of arch/{x86,ia64}
instances do make sense.  Not all of those - e.g. things like
FPU_divide_by_zero() have no business being regparm(0); they are only called
from C code and forcing their arguments on stack is a pure pessimization for
no reason whatsoever.  Everything else in arch/* is magic green marker,
AFAICS...

There are some borderline cases - e.g. I'm not sure if having sys_recv
done *not* via SYSCALL_DEFINE() is deliberate; it might cut down on
some overhead (the sucker's calling sys_recvfrom(), which does normalizations,
which make normalizing in sys_recv() pointless).  OTOH, sys_send *is*
done as SYSCALL_DEFINE, even though it ends up calling sys_sendto()...

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-21  6:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-14  9:42 Issues with "x86, um: switch to generic fork/vfork/clone" commit Nicolas Dichtel
2013-01-19  6:38 ` Al Viro
2013-01-20  3:12   ` Al Viro
2013-01-20 20:53     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-20 21:28       ` Al Viro
2013-01-21  1:22       ` Al Viro
2013-01-21  1:40         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-21  2:30           ` Al Viro
2013-01-21  2:39             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-21  6:02               ` Al Viro [this message]
2013-01-21 22:55             ` [RFC] making HAVE_SYSCALL_WRAPPERS universal (Re: Issues with "x86, um: switch to generic fork/vfork/clone" commit) Al Viro
2013-01-22 12:47               ` James Hogan
2013-01-22 14:23                 ` Al Viro
2013-01-22 13:16               ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-22 15:33               ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-01-21  9:00     ` Issues with "x86, um: switch to generic fork/vfork/clone" commit Nicolas Dichtel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-11-10  4:36 Michel Lespinasse
2012-11-10  4:51 ` Al Viro
2012-11-10  4:57   ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-11-10  5:33     ` Al Viro
2012-11-10  5:47       ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-11-10  7:33         ` Al Viro
2012-11-10  8:08           ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-11-10 18:59           ` Al Viro

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