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From: Leandro Lucarella <leandro.lucarella@sociomantic.com>
To: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Doubts about listen backlog and tcp_max_syn_backlog
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 13:22:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130124122223.GQ4608@sociomantic.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <510039C8.7040401@hp.com>

On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:28:08AM -0800, Rick Jones wrote:
> >Then if syncookies are enabled, the time spent in connect() shouldn't be
> >bigger than 3 seconds even if SYNs are being "dropped" by listen, right?
> 
> Do you mean if "ESTABLISHED" connections are dropped because the
> listen queue is full?  I don't think I would put that as "SYNs being
> dropped by listen" - too easy to confuse that with an actual
> dropping of a SYN segment.

I was just kind of quoting the name given by netstat: "SYNs to LISTEN
sockets dropped" (for kernel 3.0, I noticed newer kernels don't have
this stat anymore, or the name was changed). I still don't know if we
are talking about the same thing.

> But yes, I would not expect a connect() call to remain incomplete
> for any longer than it took to receive an SYN|ACK from the other
> end.

So the only reason to experience these high times spent in connect()
should be because a SYN or SYN|ACK was actually loss in a lower layer,
like an error in the network device or a transmission error?

> That would be 3 (,9, 21, etc...) seconds on a kernel with 3
> seconds as the initial retransmission timeout.

Which can't be changed without recompiling, right?

Thanks!

-- 
Leandro Lucarella
sociomantic labs GmbH
http://www.sociomantic.com

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-24 12:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-22 16:10 Doubts about listen backlog and tcp_max_syn_backlog Leandro Lucarella
2013-01-22 16:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-01-22 16:59   ` Leandro Lucarella
2013-01-22 17:13     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-01-22 18:17       ` Rick Jones
2013-01-22 18:42         ` Leandro Lucarella
2013-01-22 22:01           ` Rick Jones
2013-01-23 10:47             ` Leandro Lucarella
2013-01-23 19:28               ` Rick Jones
2013-01-24 12:22                 ` Leandro Lucarella [this message]
2013-01-24 18:44                   ` Rick Jones
2013-01-24 19:21                     ` Leandro Lucarella
2013-01-25  6:12                       ` Nivedita SInghvi
2013-01-25 10:05                         ` Leandro Lucarella
2013-01-28  2:48                           ` Nivedita Singhvi
2013-01-28  5:21                             ` Vijay Subramanian
2013-01-28 14:40                               ` Leandro Lucarella
2013-01-28 13:08                             ` Leandro Lucarella
2013-01-28  2:49                           ` Nivedita Singhvi
2013-01-23 20:48               ` Vijay Subramanian

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