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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: ling.ma.program@gmail.com, mingo@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	hpa@zytor.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ma Ling <ling.ml@alipay.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [x86]: Compiler Option Os is better on latest x86
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:12:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130129081203.GD594@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <26437.1359393357@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>


* Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:11:01 -0500, ling.ma.program@gmail.com said:
> 
> > Based on above reasons, we compiled linux kernel 3.6.9 with O2 and Os
> > respectively. The results show Os improve performance netperf 4.8%,
> > 2.7% for volano as below
> 
> Am I allowed to NAK this?  What the numbers given so far 
> *actually* show is 4.8% more instructions executed, *not* 4.8% 
> better performance.

cycles and elapsed time is down in both tests - the speedup 
seems statistically a wash in the first test and significant for 
the second workload.

the instruction count might be an artifact of byte wise versus 
word wise REP; MOV.

> I'm having a *very* hard time convincing myself that what 
> we're seeing isn't simply the expected behavior of loops *not* 
> being unrolled and similar non-optimizations done by -Os, so 
> more instructions get executed to do the same amount of work.
> 
> Rather than "run for 10 seconds and count instructions", can 
> we "run for 50,000 syscalls and count clock time" or similar 
> that shows an *actual* improvement?

Look at the numbers, it counts a whole lot of other things as 
well beyond instructions - elapsed time being the most important 
one.

But more numbers never hurt.

Thanks,

	Ingo

      reply	other threads:[~2013-01-29  8:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-25 14:11 [PATCH] [x86]: Compiler Option Os is better on latest x86 ling.ma.program
2013-01-26 12:25 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/defconfig: Turn on CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE= y in the 64-bit defconfig tip-bot for Ma Ling
2013-01-26 12:52   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-01-26 15:18     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-26 15:42       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-01-26 19:43       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-26 21:02         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-01-26 21:04           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-27 12:49           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-01-26 21:08         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-28 17:15 ` [PATCH] [x86]: Compiler Option Os is better on latest x86 Valdis.Kletnieks
2013-01-29  8:12   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]

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