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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	jslaby@suse.cz
Subject: Re: [PATCH] printk: Avoid softlockups in console_unlock()
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:46:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130131124625.GB4612@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130130160827.cadb3262.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Wed 30-01-13 16:08:27, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:54:24 +0100
> Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> 
> > >   So I was testing the attached patch which does what we discussed. The bad
> > > news is I was able to trigger a situation (twice) when suddently sda
> > > disappeared and thus all IO requests failed with EIO. There is no trace of
> > > what's happened in the kernel log. I'm guessing that disabled interrupts on
> > > the printing CPU caused scsi layer to time out for some request and fail the
> > > device. So where do we go from here?
> >   Andrew? I guess this fell off your radar via the "hrm, strange, need to
> > have a closer look later" path?
> 
> urgh.  I was hoping that if we left it long enough, one of both of us
> would die :(
  I'm too young for this strategy to work for me :)

> I fear we will rue the day when we changed printk() to bounce some of
> its work up to a kernel thread.
> 
> > Currently I'd be inclined to return to my original solution...
> 
> Can we make it smarter?  Say, take a peek at the current
> softlockup/nmi-watchdog intervals, work out how for how long we can
> afford to keep interrupts disabled and then use that period and
> sched_clock() to work out if we're getting into trouble?  IOW, remove
> the hard-wired "1000" thing which will always be too high or too low
> for all situations.
  Yes, I also thought that making offloading more clever (so that offload
doesn't happen unless we really have no choice) could make the approach
more acceptable. 

> Implementation-wise, that would probably end up adding a kernel-wide
> function along the lines of
> 
> /*
>  * Return the maximum number of nanosecond for which interrupts may be disabled
>  * on the current CPU
>  */
> u64 max_interrupt_disabled_duration(void)
> {
> 	return min(sortirq duration, nmi watchdog duration);
> }
  OK, that sounds good. So I'll write some patch...
 
								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-31 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-15 17:58 [PATCH] printk: Avoid softlockups in console_unlock() Jan Kara
2013-01-16  7:37 ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-16 10:16   ` Jan Kara
2013-01-16 22:50     ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-16 23:55       ` Jan Kara
2013-01-17  0:11         ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-17 21:04           ` Jan Kara
2013-01-17 21:39             ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-17 23:46               ` Jan Kara
2013-01-17 23:50                 ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-21 21:00                   ` Jan Kara
2013-01-29 14:54                     ` Jan Kara
2013-01-31  0:08                       ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-31 12:46                         ` Jan Kara [this message]
2013-01-31  7:44               ` anish singh
2013-01-31 21:21                 ` Andrew Morton

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