From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Alessio Igor Bogani <abogani@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Geoff Levand <geoff@infradead.org>,
Gilad Ben Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>,
Hakan Akkan <hakanakkan@gmail.com>,
Li Zhong <zhong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung.kim@lge.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] 3.8-rc6-nohz4
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:59:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130211095909.GG23932@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFTL4hwKzcNEr8G1h1SErhwxAuQKR3rEX3cxxCyxf_LFHudL0Q@mail.gmail.com>
* Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm worried about the proliferation of not easily separable
> > config options. We already have way too many timer and
> > scheduler options to begin with.
>
> Like Steve said, this is for overhead reasons. The syscall
> uses the slow path so that's ok. But we add a callback to
> every exception, irq entry/exit, scheduler sched switch,
> signal handling, user and kernel preemption point. This all
> could be lowered using static keys but even that doesn't make
> me feel comfortable with this idea.
>
> Moreover, for now this is going to be used only on extreme
> usecases such as real time and HPC. If we really have to merge
> this into an all-in-one nohz kconfig, I suggest we wait for
> the feature to mature a bit and prove that it can be useful
> further those specialized workloads, and also that we can
> ensure it's off-case overhead is not significant.
I have no problems with making it an option initially - as long
as the options are logically named and interconnected.
In terms of overhead, a big plus is the reduction in user-space
execution overhead. At HZ=1000 we easily have 0.5%-1.0% overhead
currently. That is a *lot* of overhead if the box does mostly
user-space execution - which most boxes do, both servers and
desktops - not HPC systems.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-11 9:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-06 18:28 [ANNOUNCE] 3.8-rc6-nohz4 Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-07 2:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-07 11:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-07 15:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2013-02-07 16:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-07 16:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-07 17:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-07 17:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-07 16:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-07 16:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-07 16:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-07 17:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-07 17:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-07 19:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-07 19:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-08 15:51 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-11 9:59 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-02-07 16:41 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-07 17:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-07 17:18 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-07 19:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2013-02-07 19:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-08 6:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-08 15:53 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-02-08 16:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-08 16:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2013-02-08 18:57 ` Clark Williams
2013-02-08 19:43 ` Christoph Lameter
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