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From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Josh Boyer <jwboyer@redhat.com>, Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	keyrings@linux-nfs.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Load keys from signed PE binaries
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 22:25:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130226032508.GA12906@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130226031338.GA29784@srcf.ucam.org>

On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 03:13:38AM +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> 
> Because Microsoft have indicated that they'd be taking a reactive 
> approach to blacklisting and because, so far, nobody has decided to 
> write the trivial proof of concept that demonstrates the problem.

Microsoft would take a severe hit both from a PR perspective, as well
as incurring significant legal risks if they did that in certain
jourisdictions --- in particular, I suspect in Europe, if Microsoft
were to break the ability of Linux distributions from booting, it
would be significantly frowned upon.

So Microsoft may have privately threatened this to certain Red Hat
attendees (threats are cheap, but it's not obvious that they would
necessarily follow through on this threat.

						- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-26  3:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-21 15:47 [GIT PULL] Load keys from signed PE binaries David Howells
2013-02-21 16:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 16:42   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 16:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 17:49       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 18:03         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 18:11           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-22 14:05           ` Peter Jones
2013-02-25 14:46             ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 15:42               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-25 15:50                 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 16:14                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-25 16:20                     ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-26 21:40                       ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-26 22:19                         ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-21 18:17       ` David Howells
2013-02-21 18:25         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-25 14:33           ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 15:42             ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 18:25         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 18:34           ` Peter Jones
2013-02-21 18:56             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 19:10               ` Peter Jones
2013-02-21 19:10               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 20:31               ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-21 20:32                 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 20:38                   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-18  2:12               ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-03-19 18:11                 ` David Howells
2013-03-20 16:52                   ` David Howells
2013-03-20 23:28                     ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-02-21 20:08         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-25 14:28     ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 15:45       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 21:08         ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 23:51       ` David Howells
2013-02-26  0:59         ` Greg KH
2013-02-26  2:33           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  3:02             ` Greg KH
2013-02-26  3:13               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  3:25                 ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2013-02-26  3:28                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  3:32                     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-26  3:42                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  3:45                         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-26  3:48                           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  4:31                             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-26  4:57                               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 15:30                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-26 15:38                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-27 17:23                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-02-26 21:30                               ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-26 21:40                                 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-26 22:35                                   ` Al Viro
2013-02-26  3:40                     ` Greg KH
2013-02-26  3:45                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  3:49                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26 19:30                     ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-26 19:41                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  3:31                 ` Greg KH
2013-02-26  3:38                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  3:54                     ` Greg KH
2013-02-26  4:04                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  4:13                         ` Greg KH
2013-02-26  4:23                           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  4:43                             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-26  4:59                               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 21:57                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-02-26 22:06                                 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-27 12:32                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-02-27 12:43                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-27 14:14                                     ` Peter Jones
2013-02-26  4:25                           ` Dave Airlie
2013-02-26  4:45                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26  4:55                               ` Dave Airlie
2013-02-26  6:04                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26  6:38                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26 10:07                                     ` Raymond Jennings
2013-02-26 10:21                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 16:45                                         ` Kent Yoder
2013-02-26 16:54                               ` Peter Jones
2013-02-27 15:24                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-27 17:36                                   ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-27 17:59                                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-27 19:21                                       ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-27 19:34                                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-27 19:14                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-27 21:31                                   ` Dave Airlie
2013-02-28  6:27                                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-02-28  7:48                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-26 19:40                               ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-26 19:46                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  4:50                             ` Greg KH
2013-02-28  7:57                   ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-28 15:43                     ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-28 19:26                       ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-28 19:30                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 19:41                         ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-28 19:53                           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 20:23                             ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-28 20:31                               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 15:11           ` David Howells
2013-02-26 16:50             ` Greg KH
2013-02-26 13:34         ` Jiri Kosina
2013-02-26 14:16           ` Raymond Jennings
2013-02-27  9:35         ` ownssh
2013-02-27 10:17           ` James Courtier-Dutton
2013-02-27 11:27             ` Alexander Holler
2013-02-27 11:49               ` James Courtier-Dutton
2013-02-27 14:56           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-27 20:35             ` ownssh
2013-03-01 18:21               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-01 18:39                 ` Gene Heskett
2013-02-28 22:48 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-02-28 22:51   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 23:02     ` Jiri Kosina
2013-02-28 23:05       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 23:45         ` Jiri Kosina
2013-02-28 23:47           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 23:52             ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-01  0:00               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-01  0:08                 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-01 10:00     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2013-03-01 14:30       ` Theodore Ts'o

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