From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759911Ab3BZTqP (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:46:15 -0500 Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([93.93.128.6]:58399 "EHLO cavan.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757815Ab3BZTqO (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:46:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 19:46:09 +0000 From: Matthew Garrett To: Florian Weimer Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" , Dave Airlie , Greg KH , David Howells , Linus Torvalds , Josh Boyer , Peter Jones , Vivek Goyal , Kees Cook , keyrings@linux-nfs.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Load keys from signed PE binaries Message-ID: <20130226194609.GB16640@srcf.ucam.org> References: <20130226030249.GB23834@kroah.com> <20130226031338.GA29784@srcf.ucam.org> <20130226033156.GA24999@kroah.com> <20130226033803.GA30285@srcf.ucam.org> <20130226035416.GA1128@kroah.com> <20130226040456.GA30717@srcf.ucam.org> <20130226041324.GA7241@kroah.com> <20130226044521.GC12906@thunk.org> <87621esw1m.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87621esw1m.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on cavan.codon.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 08:40:53PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > | No, there's no way to set the legacy boot as the default option. > > > > So non-interactive booting of alternative operating systems is *not* > supported. This is way more restrictive than any x86 UEFI device I've > heard of (even in the face of a potential revocation of the boot > loader by Microsoft). It's supported as long as you use Google's bootloader rather than a legacy one, but you're still stuck with either a 30-second boot delay or hitting ctrl+d and there's no way to install your own keys without disassembling the machine and physically disabling the write-protection on the firmware. It's certainly more hostile than any UEFI Secure Boot system I've found. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org