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On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:36:09AM -0600, Chris Friesen wrote:
> ...
> At this point you've got a running infected Win8 install that is
> running on Secure Boot hardware but is actually running malware.
> 
> Admittedly this would be tricky to do reliably in a way that the
> user doesn't notice, so it may not actually be a real-world threat.

That's another thing which is extraordinarily vague.  What counts as
"user doesn't notice"?  If a whole bunch of kernel messages scroll by,
is that enough?  What if a Penguin jpg shows up for a minimum 5
seconds?  15 seconds?  30 seconds?

						- Ted