From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759864Ab3CGVfp (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Mar 2013 16:35:45 -0500 Received: from mail.linuxfoundation.org ([140.211.169.12]:37426 "EHLO mail.linuxfoundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752764Ab3CGVfo (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Mar 2013 16:35:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:35:42 -0800 From: Andrew Morton To: Paul Gortmaker Cc: Mike Frysinger , Ingo Molnar , Randy Dunlap , , Thomas Gleixner , Russell King , Michal Simek , Ralf Baechle , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Paul Mundt , "David S. Miller" , Chris Metcalf , Richard Weinberger Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] early_printk: consolidate random copies of identical code Message-Id: <20130307133542.8bdb23612990fa25c5cc9112@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <5138EF7F.1050003@windriver.com> References: <1362683754-706-1-git-send-email-paul.gortmaker@windriver.com> <20130307112536.82288f41924a38a441cdf345@linux-foundation.org> <5138EF7F.1050003@windriver.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0beta5 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 14:50:23 -0500 Paul Gortmaker wrote: > This brings up a recurring question. I was tempted to just go make > CONFIG_EARLY_PRINTK depend on CONFIG_PRINTK, but lately I've faced > pushback when trying to "fix" things like seeing ARM OMAP USB options > for an x86 build[1], and GOLDFISH virt drivers being offered even > when the end user already said no to GOLDFISH[2]. > > Do we want to use dependencies to reflect the real world layout of > platforms/systems, or do we want to go the minimal dependency > approach, where we are building sparc specific drivers on mips just > because we can? > > I think the former is better from a user specific point of view, as > the maze of Kconfig is better as a tree topology with branches that > have clear dependencies that exclude them, versus it being a flat > monolithic space where anything can select anything. > > Arguments I've heard for the latter seem to be developer centric > (i.e forcing wider build coverage on the population as a whole, etc) For me personally, I really really want good compilation coverage. It drives me bats when I merge a patch but have to jump through a series of hoops (such as not having the appropriate cross-compiler!) to be able to build the thing. otoh, offering useless stuff to non-kernel-developers has downsides with no balancing benefit, and we really should optimise things for our users because there are so many more of them than there are of us. I wish we could do both :( CONFIG_AKPM?