From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
mtosatti@redhat.com, jan.kiszka@siemens.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: kvm: reset the bootstrap processor when it gets an INIT
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:54:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130311135441.GN31619@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <513DDCC2.9070807@redhat.com>
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 02:31:46PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 11/03/2013 12:51, Gleb Natapov ha scritto:
> >> >
> >> > Agreed, but we still have the problem of how to signal from userspace.
> >> > For that do you have any other suggestion than mp_state? And if we keep
> >> > mp_state to signal from userspace, giving INIT_RECEIVED the
> >> > "wait-for-SIPI" semantics would be wrong.
> >> >
> > I don't see how can we use mp_state for signaling from userspace either.
> > Currently soft reset always reset vcpus, so it is OK for userspace to
> > generate reset vcpu state and put it into kernel, mp_state is just one
> > of the updated states, but when INIT will be just another signal that
> > may or may not reset cpu or have other side effects like #vmexit this
> > will not longer work. We will have to have another interface for
> > injecting INIT from userspace and userspace soft-reset will use it
> > instead of doing reset by itself.
>
> Setting the mp_state to INIT_RECEIVED is that interface, and it already
> works, for APs at least. This patch extends it to work for the BSP as well.
>
It does not for AP either. If AP has vmx on mp_sate should not be set to
INIT_RECEIVED. mp_sate is a state as you can see from its name and we
already had a discussion on the generic device API about importance of
separating sending commands from setting state. There is a difference
between setting mp_sate during migration and signaling INIT#.
> In the corresponding userspace patch, I don't need to touch the CPU
> state at all. I can just signal the kernel. If I touch the CPU, I'll
> break the nested case, no matter how it is implemented. So far, the
> userspace did not have to worry about nested, and that's something that
> should be kept that way.
We are discussing two different things here. I'll try to separate them.
1. BSP is broken WRT #INIT
2. nested is broken WRT #INIT
You are fixing 1 with your patches, for that I proposed much easier
solution (at last from kernel point of view): if BSP reset it in
userspace and make it runnable. Nested virt is still broken, but this is
not what you are fixing.
For 2 much more involved fix is needed. Jan fixes it and it will require
signaling INIT# from userspace by other means than mp_sate because
signaling INIT# does not automatically means that mp_sate changes to
INIT_RECEIVED.
>
> If we move away from the INIT_RECEIVED and SIPI_RECEIVED states for
> in-kernel APIC -> VCPU communication, then the KVM_SET_MP_STATE ioctl
> will have to convert them to the right bits in the requests field or in
> the APIC state. But I'm starting to see less benefit from moving away
> from mp_state.
>
We are not moving away from mp_state, we are moving away from using
mp_state for signaling because with nested virt INIT does not always
change mp_state, not only that it can change mp_state long after signal
is received after vmx off is done.
--
Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-11 13:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-09 6:48 [PATCH] x86: kvm: reset the bootstrap processor when it gets an INIT Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-10 11:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-10 14:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-10 15:35 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-10 17:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-10 18:10 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 10:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-11 10:28 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 11:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-11 11:51 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 13:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-11 13:54 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-03-11 14:01 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 14:05 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 14:06 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 14:09 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 14:10 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 14:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 14:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 14:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-11 15:36 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 17:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 17:34 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 17:38 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 17:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 18:05 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 18:13 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 18:27 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 18:39 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 18:47 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 18:51 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 19:01 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 19:30 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-12 9:25 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-12 11:28 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 14:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-11 17:20 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 17:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-11 18:04 ` Gleb Natapov
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