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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mtosatti@redhat.com" <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: kvm: reset the bootstrap processor when it gets an INIT
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:41:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130311174155.GU31619@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <513E158B.80506@siemens.com>

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 06:34:03PM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2013-03-11 18:23, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 04:36:33PM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >> On 2013-03-11 15:23, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >>> Il 11/03/2013 15:05, Gleb Natapov ha scritto:
> >>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 03:01:40PM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>>>>> We are not moving away from mp_state, we are moving away from using
> >>>>>> mp_state for signaling because with nested virt INIT does not always
> >>>>>> change mp_state, not only that it can change mp_state long after signal
> >>>>>> is received after vmx off is done.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Right.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BTW, for that to happen, we will also need to influence the INIT level.
> >>>>> Unless I misread the spec, INIT is blocked while in root mode, and if
> >>>>> you deassert INIT before leaving root (vmxoff, vmenter), nothing
> >>>>> actually happens. So what matters is the INIT signal level at the exit
> >>>>> of root mode.
> >>>>>
> >>>> You are talking about INIT# signal received via CPU pin, right? I think
> >>>> INIT send by IPI cannot go away.
> >>>
> >>> Neither can go away.  For INIT sent by IPI, 10.4.7 says:
> >>>
> >>> Only the Pentium and P6 family processors support the INIT-deassert IPI.
> >>> An INIT-disassert IPI has no affect on the state of the APIC, other than
> >>> to reload the arbitration ID register with the value in the APIC ID
> >>> register.
> >>>
> >>> 18.27.1 also says that "In the local APIC, NMI and INIT (except for INIT
> >>> deassert) are always treated as edge triggered interrupts".
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> For INIT#, the ICH9 chipset says that "INIT# is driven low for 16 PCI
> >>> clocks" when a soft reset is requested.  So we can guess that INIT# is
> >>> also edge-triggered.
> >>
> >> Ah, ok. So, virtually, INIT stays asserted until it can be delivered in
> >> form of a reset or a vmexit.
> >>
> > vmexit clears it?
> 
> It has to. Otherwise, it would hit the host on vmxoff.
> 
Why do you thing this is not happening?

Look at [1] page 10 "VMX and INIT blocking". Do you think they were
lucky to hit CPU while it was in a root mode?

[1] http://www.invisiblethingslab.com/resources/2011/Software%20Attacks%20on%20Intel%20VT-d.pdf

--
			Gleb.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-03-11 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-09  6:48 [PATCH] x86: kvm: reset the bootstrap processor when it gets an INIT Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-10 11:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-10 14:53   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-10 15:35     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-10 17:19       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-10 18:10         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 10:14           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-11 10:28             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 11:25               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-11 11:51                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 13:31                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-11 13:54                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 14:01                       ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 14:05                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 14:06                           ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 14:09                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 14:10                               ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 14:12                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 14:19                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 14:23                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-11 15:36                             ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 17:23                               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 17:34                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 17:38                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 17:41                                   ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-03-11 18:05                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 18:13                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 18:27                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 18:39                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 18:47                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 18:51                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 19:01                                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-11 19:30                                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-12  9:25                                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-12 11:28                                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 14:28                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-11 17:20                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-11 17:39                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-11 18:04                             ` Gleb Natapov

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