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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, WANG Chao <chaowang@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86, kdump: Set crashkernel_low automatically
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:45:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130311204530.GE14738@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87hakhk6xu.fsf@xmission.com>

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 01:38:53PM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:


[..]
> I would argue
> that it might be better to figure out how to use a small memory
> foot-print and try to keep that foot-print from growing.

In my experience, trying to keep foot-print small has kind of been a
losing battle.

- People want more functionality in second kernel, want to dump to more
  complicated IO stacks and that requires pulling in more drivers,
  more libraries, more daemons, more user space tools and what not.

- Now we use dracut generated initramfs and it has been growing in size.
  Now systemd has been pulled in too.

- Drivers keep on increasing their memory usage.

- makdumpfile needs more memory to dump large machines.

There are so many places where memory usage is going up and trying
to keep track of all that has been very hard.

So I would think that it is a good goal to have but continuously 
increasing memory usage is inevitable.

Thanks
Vivek

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-03-11 20:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-08  5:54 3.9-rc1: crash kernel panic - not syncing: Can not allocate SWIOTLB buffer earlier and can't now provide you with the DMA bounce buffer WANG Chao
2013-03-08  6:03 ` CAI Qian
2013-03-08  6:32   ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-08  6:36     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-08  7:20       ` WANG Chao
2013-03-08  7:27         ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-08  7:33           ` WANG Chao
2013-03-08  7:50             ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-08 12:12               ` WANG Chao
2013-03-08 18:24                 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-08 19:39                   ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-11  3:42                     ` WANG Chao
2013-03-11  4:56                       ` [PATCH] x86, kdump: Set crashkernel_low automatically Yinghai Lu
2013-03-11 14:48                         ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-11 15:02                           ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-11 17:58                             ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-11 18:26                               ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-11 18:44                                 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-11 18:46                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-11 18:50                                   ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-11 18:55                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-11 19:06                                       ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-11 19:06                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-11 19:08                                           ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-11 19:20                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-11 19:55                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-11 20:12                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-11 20:19                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-11 20:36                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-11 20:38                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-11 20:42                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-11 21:10                                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-11 21:13                                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-11 20:45                                                   ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2013-03-11 20:50                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-11 21:03                                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-11 21:06                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-12 13:46                                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-12  8:35                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-03-11 20:57                                                     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-11 21:06                                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-11 21:15                                                         ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-11 19:10                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-11 19:34                                         ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-11 19:38                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-11 19:39                                             ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-11 19:44                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-11 19:44                                               ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-18 14:46                                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-18 15:33                                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-18 19:05                                                     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-18 19:10                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-18 20:00                                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-18 21:14                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-18 21:25                                                           ` [PATCH v3] " Yinghai Lu
2013-03-18 22:52                                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-18 23:26                                                               ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-19  0:27                                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-19  1:04                                                                   ` [PATCH v4] " Yinghai Lu
2013-03-19 13:33                                                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-19 15:05                                                                       ` [PATCH v5] " Yinghai Lu
2013-03-20 13:08                                                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-20 15:53                                                                           ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-20 16:03                                                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-20 16:21                                                                               ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-20 16:31                                                                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-20 19:22                                                                                   ` [PATCH] kexec: use Crash kernel for Crash kernel low Yinghai Lu
2013-03-25 19:42                                                                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-25 21:50                                                                                       ` Yinghai Lu
2013-03-26 18:14                                                                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-01 13:34                                                                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-01 18:33                                                                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-01 19:26                                                                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-01 20:47                                                                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-01 21:10                                                                                                   ` Yinghai Lu
2013-04-01 22:02                                                                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-01 22:17                                                                                                       ` Yinghai Lu
2013-04-01 22:20                                                                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-04-01 22:40                                                                                                           ` Yinghai Lu
2013-04-02  1:11                                                                                                             ` Yinghai Lu
2013-04-02 13:50                                                                                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-02 14:17                                                                                                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-02 14:50                                                                                                                   ` Yinghai Lu
2013-04-02 14:45                                                                                                                 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-04-02 14:58                                                                                                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-02 15:44                                                                                                                     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-04-02 15:39                                                                                                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-02 15:46                                                                                                                     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-04-02 15:50                                                                                                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2013-04-02 17:21                                                                                                                         ` Yinghai Lu
2013-04-02 13:30                                                                                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-11 19:14                                       ` [PATCH] x86, kdump: Set crashkernel_low automatically Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-11 19:22                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-11 19:59                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-11 20:17                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-11 19:56                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-11 19:02                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-11 19:04                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-03-11 19:17                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-11 13:14                     ` 3.9-rc1: crash kernel panic - not syncing: Can not allocate SWIOTLB buffer earlier and can't now provide you with the DMA bounce buffer Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-03-08  7:52             ` Takao Indoh

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