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From: Eric Wong <normalperson@yhbt.net>
To: "Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>
Cc: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: epoll: possible bug from wakeup_source activation
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:44:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130312004445.GA5151@dcvr.yhbt.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMP5Xgcr97gcD6noP=vkTN7jLrhNGZ2VLVMkOKx+puoP8AiJDA@mail.gmail.com>

Arve Hjønnevåg <arve@android.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Eric Wong <normalperson@yhbt.net> wrote:
> > Arve Hjønnevåg <arve@android.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Eric Wong <normalperson@yhbt.net> wrote:
> >> > Arve Hjønnevåg <arve@android.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Eric Wong <normalperson@yhbt.net> wrote:
> >> >> > What happens if ep_modify calls ep_destroy_wakeup_source
> >> >> > while __pm_stay_awake is running on the same epi->ws?
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, that looks like a problem. I think calling
> >> >> ep_destroy_wakeup_source with ep->lock held should fix that. It is not
> >> >> clear how useful changing EPOLLWAKEUP in ep_modify is, so
> >> >> alternatively we could remove that feature and instead only allow it
> >> >> to be set in ep_insert.
> >> >
> >> > ep->lock would work, but ep->lock is already a source of heavy
> >> > contention in my multithreaded+epoll webservers.
> >>
> >> This should not have any significant impact on that since you would be
> >> adding a lock to a code path that is, as far as I know, unused.
> >>
> >> > Perhaps RCU can be used?  I've no experience with RCU, but I've been
> >> > meaning to get acquainted with RCU.
> >>
> >> That adds code to the common path however. The wakeup_source is not
> >> touch without holding one of the locks so holding both locks before
> >> deleting it seems like a simpler solution.
> >
> > True.  However, I've been looking into eliminating ep->lock in more
> > places (maybe entirely)[1].
> >
> > I don't think the current overhead of RCU in epoll is significant,
> > either.
> >
> >
> > [1] I'll be testing Mathieu's wait-free concurrent queue soon:
> >     http://mid.gmane.org/20130311213602.GB9829@Krystal
> 
> OK, but is there any way you could use the same locking scheme for the
> wakeup_source and the queue?

Probably, yes.  I think I can just use ep->mtx and ignore the mutex
included with wfcq_head, need to protect the rbtree while dequeueing.

      reply	other threads:[~2013-03-12  0:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-07 11:26 epoll: possible bug from wakeup_source activation Eric Wong
2013-03-08  1:30 ` Eric Wong
2013-03-08  4:56   ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2013-03-08 20:49     ` Eric Wong
2013-03-09  4:09       ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2013-03-09  7:10         ` Eric Wong
2013-03-10  1:11           ` Eric Wong
2013-03-10  4:59             ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-10 11:50               ` [PATCH] epoll: use RCU protect wakeup_source in epitem Eric Wong
2013-03-14  3:09                 ` [PATCH mm] epoll: lock ep->mtx in ep_free to silence lockdep Eric Wong
2013-03-11 23:37           ` epoll: possible bug from wakeup_source activation Arve Hjønnevåg
2013-03-12  0:17             ` Eric Wong
2013-03-12  0:29               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2013-03-12  0:44                 ` Eric Wong [this message]

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