From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Ming Lei <tom.leiming@gmail.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: + atomic-improve-atomic_inc_unless_negative-atomic_dec_unless_positive .patch added to -mm tree
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:51:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130315175117.GA2462@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFTL4hxNh5qMZyyrLc8_yG5-i7UoS_nan22pO8o1fb8yS7Vz3w@mail.gmail.com>
On 03/15, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>
> > The lack of the barrier?
> >
> > I thought about this, this should be fine? atomic_add_unless() has the same
> > "problem", but this is documented in atomic_ops.txt:
> >
> > atomic_add_unless requires explicit memory barriers around the operation
> > unless it fails (returns 0).
> >
> > I thought that atomic_add_unless_negative() should have the same
> > guarantees?
>
> I feel very uncomfortable with that. The memory barrier is needed
> anyway to make sure we don't deal with a stale value of the atomic val
> (wrt. ordering against another object).
> The following should really be expected to work without added barrier:
>
> void put_object(foo *obj)
> {
> if (atomic_dec_return(obj->ref) == -1)
> free_rcu(obj);
> }
>
> bool try_get_object(foo *obj)
> {
> if (atomic_add_unless_negative(obj, 1))
> return true;
> return false;
> }
>
> = CPU 0 = = CPU 1
> rcu_read_lock()
> put_object(obj0);
> obj = rcu_derefr(obj0);
> rcu_assign_ptr(obj0, NULL);
(I guess you meant rcu_assign_ptr() then put_object())
> if (try_get_object(obj))
> do_something...
> else
> object is dying
> rcu_read_unlock()
I must have missed something.
do_something() looks fine, if atomic_add_unless_negative() succeeds
we do have a barrier?
Anyway, I understand that it is possible to write the code which
won't work without the uncoditional mb().
My point was: should we fix atomic_add_unless() then? If not, why
should atomic_add_unless_negative() differ?
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-15 17:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-14 16:24 + atomic-improve-atomic_inc_unless_negative-atomic_dec_unless_positive .patch added to -mm tree Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-15 3:46 ` Ming Lei
2013-03-15 13:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-15 15:13 ` Ming Lei
2013-03-15 16:51 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-15 17:23 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-03-15 17:51 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2013-03-15 18:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-03-15 20:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-03-16 18:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-17 17:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-03-21 17:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-21 17:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-03-21 18:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-21 18:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-21 22:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-22 12:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-22 16:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-03-16 18:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
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