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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lucas De Marchi <lucas.de.marchi@gmail.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	david@gibson.dropbear.id.au, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Feng Hong <hongfeng@marvell.com>,
	Lucas De Marchi <lucas.demarchi@profusion.mobi>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] finx argv_split() vs sysctl race
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 22:54:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130316215440.GV11268@two.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130316212351.GA21190@redhat.com>

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 10:23:51PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 03/16, Andi Kleen wrote:
> >
> > > Perhaps rcu can be better, although a global rwsem looks simpler,
> > > I dunno.
> >
> > It's a general problem with lots of sysctls.
> > >
> > > But argv_split() or its usage should be changed anyway, and GFP_KERNEL
> > > won't work under rcu_read_lock().
> >
> > rcu strings has a helper function to copy the string for sleepy cases.
> 
> Then you need to pre-allocate, take rcu_read_lock(), copy, and check
> that it actually fits the pre-allocated buffer. Not sure why the simple
> rwsem is worse.

The reason I did it originally like that was that some of the sysctls weren't
as "slow path" as power off. And for anything that is even moderately
often used a global lock is going to hurt eventually. The "read" in the
sem also doesn't help because it's still a hot cache line. 
I agree if it the goal was only to fix poweroff RCU is somewhat
overkill and a global lock would be fine.

> But I won't argue in any case
> 
> > > To me 1/2 looks as a simplification anyway, but I won't argue if we
> > > decide to add rcu/locking and avoid this patch.
> >
> > Ok I'll revisit.
> 
> OK, but do you agree with 1/2?

It doesn't solve the race alone because when the 0 byte can move it's
not safe to run kstrndup() in parallel. Ok given the n and that it 
force terminates it could only lead to some junk at the end.

But it seems like a useful small optimization, although I don't know
if it's used in any non slow paths.

I assume you audited all callers that they comprehend that they need
to free differently now.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-16 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-12  3:25 Regression with orderly_poweroff() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-03-12 14:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-12 17:46   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-12 17:54   ` Lucas De Marchi
2013-03-12 18:22     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-12 18:42       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-12 19:11         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-12 19:20           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-12 20:35             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-13 17:46               ` [PATCH 0/1] poweroff: change orderly_poweroff() to use schedule_work() Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-13 17:47                 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-14 22:28                   ` Andrew Morton
2013-03-15 16:39                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-16 20:23                       ` [PATCH 0/2] finx argv_split() vs sysctl race Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-16 20:23                         ` [PATCH 1/2] teach argv_split() to handle the mutable strings Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-18 16:03                           ` [PATCH v2 " Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-18 21:53                           ` [PATCH " Andrew Morton
2013-03-19 19:54                             ` [PATCH -mm] argv_split-teach-it-to-handle-mutable-strings-fix-2 Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-16 20:24                         ` [PATCH 2/2] set_task_comm: kill the pointless memset() + wmb() Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-16 20:32                         ` [PATCH 0/2] finx argv_split() vs sysctl race Andi Kleen
2013-03-16 20:45                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-16 20:56                             ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-16 21:23                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-16 21:54                                 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2013-03-17 14:15                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-18 16:03                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-13 23:35                 ` [PATCH 0/1] poweroff: change orderly_poweroff() to use schedule_work() Lucas De Marchi
2013-03-12 20:13           ` Regression with orderly_poweroff() Andi Kleen
2013-03-12 19:28   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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