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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Zlatko Calusic <zcalusic@bitsync.net>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	dormando <dormando@rydia.net>,
	Satoru Moriya <satoru.moriya@hds.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/10] mm: vmscan: Obey proportional scanning requirements for kswapd
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:37:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130322083704.GS1878@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130322075413.GA31457@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 08:54:27AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 21-03-13 15:34:42, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 04:07:55PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> > > > > > index 4835a7a..182ff15 100644
> > > > > > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> > > > > > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> > > > > > @@ -1815,6 +1815,45 @@ out:
> > > > > >  	}
> > > > > >  }
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > +static void recalculate_scan_count(unsigned long nr_reclaimed,
> > > > > > +		unsigned long nr_to_reclaim,
> > > > > > +		unsigned long nr[NR_LRU_LISTS])
> > > > > > +{
> > > > > > +	enum lru_list l;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	/*
> > > > > > +	 * For direct reclaim, reclaim the number of pages requested. Less
> > > > > > +	 * care is taken to ensure that scanning for each LRU is properly
> > > > > > +	 * proportional. This is unfortunate and is improper aging but
> > > > > > +	 * minimises the amount of time a process is stalled.
> > > > > > +	 */
> > > > > > +	if (!current_is_kswapd()) {
> > > > > > +		if (nr_reclaimed >= nr_to_reclaim) {
> > > > > > +			for_each_evictable_lru(l)
> > > > > > +				nr[l] = 0;
> > > > > > +		}
> > > > > > +		return;
> > > > > 
> > > > > Heh, this is nicely cryptically said what could be done in shrink_lruvec
> > > > > as
> > > > > 	if (!current_is_kswapd()) {
> > > > > 		if (nr_reclaimed >= nr_to_reclaim)
> > > > > 			break;
> > > > > 	}
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Pretty much. At one point during development, this function was more
> > > > complex and it evolved into this without me rechecking if splitting it
> > > > out still made sense.
> > > > 
> > > > > Besides that this is not memcg aware which I think it would break
> > > > > targeted reclaim which is kind of direct reclaim but it still would be
> > > > > good to stay proportional because it starts with DEF_PRIORITY.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > This does break memcg because it's a special sort of direct reclaim.
> > > > 
> > > > > I would suggest moving this back to shrink_lruvec and update the test as
> > > > > follows:
> > > > 
> > > > I also noticed that we check whether the scan counts need to be
> > > > normalised more than once
> > > 
> > > I didn't mind this because it "disqualified" at least one LRU every
> > > round which sounds reasonable to me because all LRUs would be scanned
> > > proportionally.
> > 
> > Once the scan count for one LRU is 0 then min will always be 0 and no
> > further adjustment is made. It's just redundant to check again.
> 
> Hmm, I was almost sure I wrote that min should be adjusted only if it is >0
> in the first loop but it is not there...
> 
> So for real this time.
> 			for_each_evictable_lru(l)
> 				if (nr[l] && nr[l] < min)
> 					min = nr[l];
> 
> This should work, no? Everytime you shrink all LRUs you and you have
> reclaimed enough already you get the smallest LRU out of game. This
> should keep proportions evenly.

Lets say we started like this

LRU_INACTIVE_ANON	  60
LRU_ACTIVE_FILE		1000
LRU_INACTIVE_FILE	3000

and we've reclaimed nr_to_reclaim pages then we recalculate the number
of pages to scan from each list as;

LRU_INACTIVE_ANON	  0
LRU_ACTIVE_FILE		940
LRU_INACTIVE_FILE      2940

We then shrink SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX from each LRU giving us this.

LRU_INACTIVE_ANON	  0
LRU_ACTIVE_FILE		908
LRU_INACTIVE_FILE      2908

Then under your suggestion this would be recalculated as

LRU_INACTIVE_ANON	  0
LRU_ACTIVE_FILE		  0
LRU_INACTIVE_FILE      2000

another SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX reclaims and then it stops we stop reclaiming. I
might still be missing the point of your suggestion but I do not think it
would preserve the proportion of pages we reclaim from the anon or file LRUs.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-22  8:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-17 13:04 [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm: vmscan: Limit the number of pages kswapd reclaims at each priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 23:53   ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19  9:55     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 10:16       ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 10:59         ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-20 16:18   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21  0:52     ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-22  0:08       ` Will Huck
2013-03-21  9:47     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 12:59       ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21  0:51   ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 15:57   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-21 16:47     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22  0:05     ` Will Huck
2013-03-22  3:52       ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-22  3:56         ` Will Huck
2013-03-22  4:59           ` Will Huck
2013-03-22 13:01             ` Rik van Riel
2013-04-05  0:05               ` Will Huck
2013-04-07  7:32                 ` Will Huck
2013-04-07  7:35                 ` Will Huck
2013-04-11  5:54         ` Will Huck
2013-04-11  5:58         ` Will Huck
2013-04-12  5:46           ` Ric Mason
2013-04-12  9:34             ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-12 13:40               ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-25  9:07   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-25  9:13     ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-28 22:31       ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-29  8:22         ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-30 22:07           ` Jiri Slaby
2013-04-02 11:15             ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm: vmscan: Obey proportional scanning requirements for kswapd Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:39   ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:08     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21  1:10   ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21  9:54     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 14:01   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 14:31     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:07       ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:34         ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22  7:54           ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-22  8:37             ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2013-03-22 10:04               ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-22 10:47                 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 16:25   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-21 18:02     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 16:53       ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-22 18:25         ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 19:09           ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-22 19:46             ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm: vmscan: Flatten kswapd priority loop Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:36   ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:09     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 23:58   ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 10:12     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19  3:08   ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19  8:23     ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-19 10:14     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 10:26       ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 11:01         ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 14:54   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:26     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:38       ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm: vmscan: Decide whether to compact the pgdat based on reclaim progress Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:35   ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-19 10:27     ` Mel Gorman
     [not found]   ` <20130318111130.GA7245@hacker.(null)>
2013-03-19 10:19     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:32   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:47     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:50       ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm: vmscan: Do not allow kswapd to scan at maximum priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-21  1:20   ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 10:12     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 12:30       ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 15:48   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm: vmscan: Have kswapd writeback pages based on dirty pages encountered, not priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:42   ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:11     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 17:53       ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 18:15         ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 18:21           ` Rik van Riel
     [not found]   ` <20130318110850.GA7144@hacker.(null)>
2013-03-19 10:35     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: vmscan: Block kswapd if it is encountering pages under writeback Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:49   ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:19     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 15:40       ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-19 11:06         ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:37   ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 10:57     ` Mel Gorman
     [not found]   ` <20130318115827.GB7245@hacker.(null)>
2013-03-19 10:58     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 16:32   ` [PATCH 07/10 -v2r1] " Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 18:42   ` [PATCH 07/10] " Rik van Riel
2013-03-22  8:27     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm: vmscan: Have kswapd shrink slab only once per priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:53   ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-21 16:47   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 19:47   ` Rik van Riel
2013-04-09  6:53   ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-09  8:41     ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-09 11:13     ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-10  1:07       ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-10  5:23         ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-11  9:53         ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-10  5:21       ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-11 10:01         ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 10:29           ` Ric Mason
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm: vmscan: Check if kswapd should writepage " Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 16:58   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 18:07     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 19:52   ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm: vmscan: Move logic from balance_pgdat() to kswapd_shrink_zone() Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:55   ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:25     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 17:18   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 18:13     ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 14:37 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd Mel Gorman
2013-03-24 19:00 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-25  8:17   ` Michal Hocko
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-04-09 11:06 [PATCH 0/10] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd V2 Mel Gorman
2013-04-09 11:06 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm: vmscan: Obey proportional scanning requirements for kswapd Mel Gorman
2013-04-10  7:16   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-10 14:08     ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-11  0:14       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-11  9:09         ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 19:57 [PATCH 0/10] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd V3 Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 19:57 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm: vmscan: Obey proportional scanning requirements for kswapd Mel Gorman
2013-04-18 15:01   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-04-18 15:58     ` Mel Gorman

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