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From: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung.kim@lge.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: BUG: using smp_processor_id() in preemptible [00000000] code: asm/8267
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:34:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130327163427.GN30540@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130327143715.GY4379@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 07:37:15AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 03:17:32PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Wed, 2013-03-27 at 14:15 +0100, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> > > What makes me wonder here is that the code is preemptible in an
> > > rcu_read_locked section. As far as I know preemption needs to be
> > > disabled while holding the rcu_read_lock().
> > 
> > Nah, a long long time ago some -rt people complained to paulmck that
> > keeping preemption disabled over all this RCU stuff was killing
> > latencies. Paul liked the challenge and came up with some mind twisting
> > stuff to make it work.
> 
> What can I say?  I was young and foolish.  And I still am pretty
> foolish.  ;-)
> 
> But yes, you are not required to disable preemption across
> rcu_read_lock(), and rcu_read_lock() is not guaranteed to disable
> preemption.  So if you need preemption to be disabled, do it explicitly
> with preempt_disable(), local_irq_save(), rcu_read_lock_sched(),
> or whatever, because rcu_read_lock() isn't always going to disable
> preemption.
> 
> > If you're into that kind of pain, look at CONFIG_*_PREEMPT_RCU :-)
> 
> Or just set CONFIG_PREEMPT=y, which will set CONFIG_TREE_PREEMPT_RCU=y
> on CONFIG_SMP=y builds and will set CONFIG_TINY_PREEMPT_RCU=y otherwise.
> (But please note that CONFIG_TINY_PREEMPT_RCU is going away, after which
> CONFIG_PREEMPT=y will always set CONFIG_TREE_PREEMPT_RCU=y.)
> 
> 							Thanx, Paul
> 
> > But yeah, you need to have that stuff enabled before you can hit this
> > particular snag.

Interesting read, thanks guys. I think I should have a look into the
tree-preempt implementation and try to understand it :)


	Joerg



  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-27 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-24 11:55 BUG: using smp_processor_id() in preemptible [00000000] code: asm/8267 Borislav Petkov
2013-03-24 15:59 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-03-26 18:34   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-03-27  6:02     ` Namhyung Kim
2013-03-27  9:49       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-03-27 10:42         ` Jiri Olsa
2013-03-27 14:09         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-27 16:31           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-30 15:27           ` [RFCv2] " Jiri Olsa
2013-03-27 13:15     ` Joerg Roedel
2013-03-27 14:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-27 14:37         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-03-27 16:34           ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
2013-03-27 16:38             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-03-27 18:04               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-03-27 19:07                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-03-27 19:20                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-03-27 19:22                   ` Paul E. McKenney

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