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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Roland Dreier <roland@kernel.org>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
	"Michael R. Hines" <mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Sean Hefty <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
	Hal Rosenstock <hal.rosenstock@gmail.com>,
	Yishai Hadas <yishaih@mellanox.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2] rdma: add a new IB_ACCESS_GIFT flag
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 20:05:22 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130402170521.GA30295@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL1RGDUe1=Xd1mpNajiLY08fJ+gBKAMDGeX3SVkS+egOQyiCxQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 09:57:38AM -0700, Roland Dreier wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> At the moment registering an MR breaks COW.  This breaks memory
> >> overcommit for users such as KVM: we have a lot of COW pages, e.g.
> >> instances of the zero page or pages shared using KSM.
> >>
> >> If the application does not care that adapter sees stale data (for
> >> example, it tracks writes reregisters and resends), it can use a new
> >> IBV_ACCESS_GIFT flag to prevent registration from breaking COW.
> >>
> >> The semantics are similar to that of SPLICE_F_GIFT thus the name.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> >
> > Roland, Michael is yet to test this but could you please
> > confirm whether this looks acceptable to you?
> 
> The patch itself is reasonable I guess, given the needs of this particular app.
> 
> I'm not particularly happy with the name of the flag.  The analogy
> with SPLICE_F_GIFT doesn't seem particularly strong and I'm not
> convinced even the splice flag name is very understandable.  But in
> the RDMA case there's not really any sense in which we're "gifting"
> memory to the adapter -- we're just telling the library "please don't
> trigger copy-on-write" and it doesn't seem particularly easy for users
> to understand that from the flag name.
> 
>  - R.

The point really is that any writes by application
won't be seen until re-registration, right?
OK, what's a better name?  IBV_ACCESS_NON_COHERENT?
Please tell me what is preferable and we'll go ahead with it.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-02 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-24 15:51 [PATCHv2] rdma: add a new IB_ACCESS_GIFT flag Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-02 15:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-02 16:57   ` Roland Dreier
2013-04-02 17:05     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-04-02 22:17       ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-03 16:07       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-05 20:17 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-05 20:43   ` Roland Dreier
2013-04-05 20:51     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-05 21:03       ` Roland Dreier
2013-04-05 21:32         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-09 19:03           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-10  1:26             ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-10  3:24               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-10  4:32                 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-10  5:32                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                     ` <516589C8.1040606@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2013-04-10 15:05                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-10 16:28                         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-09 19:09         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-05 20:54     ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-09 16:39       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-09 17:56         ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-09 19:00           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-09 19:12     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-09 20:34   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-09 20:37     ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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