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From: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca,
	niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu,
	dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, darren@dvhart.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, sbw@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 6/7] rcu: Drive quiescent-state-forcing delay from HZ
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:54:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130412235401.GA8140@jtriplet-mobl1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1365808754-20762-6-git-send-email-paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 04:19:13PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> 
> Systems with HZ=100 can have slow bootup times due to the default
> three-jiffy delays between quiescent-state forcing attempts.  This
> commit therefore auto-tunes the RCU_JIFFIES_TILL_FORCE_QS value based
> on the value of HZ.  However, this would break very large systems that
> require more time between quiescent-state forcing attempts.  This
> commit therefore also ups the default delay by one jiffy for each
> 256 CPUs that might be on the system (based off of nr_cpu_ids at
> runtime, -not- NR_CPUS at build time).
> 
> Reported-by: Paul Mackerras <paulus@au1.ibm.com>
> Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

Something seems very wrong if RCU regularly hits the fqs code during
boot; feels like there's some more straightforward solution we're
missing.  What causes these CPUs to fall under RCU's scrutiny during
boot yet not actually hit the RCU codepaths naturally?

Also, a comment below.

> --- a/kernel/rcutree.h
> +++ b/kernel/rcutree.h
> @@ -342,7 +342,17 @@ struct rcu_data {
>  #define RCU_FORCE_QS		3	/* Need to force quiescent state. */
>  #define RCU_SIGNAL_INIT		RCU_SAVE_DYNTICK
>  
> -#define RCU_JIFFIES_TILL_FORCE_QS	 3	/* for rsp->jiffies_force_qs */
> +#if HZ > 500
> +#define RCU_JIFFIES_TILL_FORCE_QS	 3	/* for jiffies_till_first_fqs */
> +#elif HZ > 250
> +#define RCU_JIFFIES_TILL_FORCE_QS	 2
> +#else
> +#define RCU_JIFFIES_TILL_FORCE_QS	 1
> +#endif

This seems like it really wants to use a duration calculated directly
from HZ; perhaps (HZ/100)?

- Josh Triplett

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-12 23:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-12 23:18 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/7] RCU fixes for 3.11 Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-12 23:19 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 1/7] rcu: Convert rcutree.c printk calls Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-12 23:19   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 2/7] rcu: Convert rcutree_plugin.h " Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-12 23:19   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 3/7] rcu: Kick adaptive-ticks CPUs that are holding up RCU grace periods Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-13 14:06     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-04-13 15:19       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-12 23:19   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 4/7] rcu: Don't allocate bootmem from rcu_init() Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-12 23:19   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 5/7] rcu: Remove "Experimental" flags Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-12 23:19   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 6/7] rcu: Drive quiescent-state-forcing delay from HZ Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-12 23:54     ` Josh Triplett [this message]
2013-04-13  6:38       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-13 18:18         ` Josh Triplett
2013-04-13 19:34           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-13 19:53             ` Josh Triplett
2013-04-13 22:09               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-14  6:10                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-14 12:20                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-14 14:12                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-14 14:51                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-14 15:47                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-15  8:56                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-15  9:02                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-15 17:31                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-16  9:45                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-16 13:22                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-21  9:45                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-21 16:54                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-15 16:37                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-16  9:37                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-16 13:13                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-15  9:20                     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-15 15:44                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-05-28 10:07                         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-29  1:29                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-15  2:03         ` Paul Mackerras
2013-04-15 17:26           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-12 23:19   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 7/7] rcu: Merge adjacent identical ifdefs Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-13  0:01 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/7] RCU fixes for 3.11 Josh Triplett

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