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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] perf: Adding better precise_ip field handling
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 12:31:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130510103112.GA18755@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130510102245.GA31235@dyad.programming.kicks-ass.net>


* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:18:23PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > > so you mean just detect that by opening events with increasing precise 
> > > > and see how far we could get.. could be I guess, though the 'precise' 
> > > > sysfs attribute seems more fit to me
> > > 
> > > The other way around, start at ppp end at !p, then use the one that 
> > > worked.
> > 
> > Really, instead of this silly 'probing until it works' notion, how about 
> > the radical idea that we pass to the kernel our request, and the kernel 
> > fulfills our wish to the best of its ability?
> > 
> > This could be done as a new PERF_COUNT_HW_CPU_CYCLES_PRECISE event, to 
> > which tooling could migrate, without changing existing semantics.
> > 
> > The problem with the complex probing is that it's totally unnecessary 
> > complexity that results from lack of passing the right information to the 
> > kernel. Forcing that will only hinder user-space adoption of our precise 
> > profiling facilities.
> 
> The part I have trouble with is that its a vague request and you'll get 
> a vague answer.

PERF_COUNT_HW_CPU_CYCLES_PRECISE is not a vague request at all: it means 
'get me the most precise cycles profiling available on this system'.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-10 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-09 13:32 [PATCH 0/9] perf: Adding better precise_ip field handling Jiri Olsa
2013-05-09 13:32 ` [PATCH 1/9] perf x86: Add precise sysfs cpu pmu attribute Jiri Olsa
2013-05-09 13:32 ` [PATCH 2/9] perf tools: Add precise object to interface sysfs precise Jiri Olsa
2013-05-10  1:34   ` Namhyung Kim
2013-05-10  9:06     ` Jiri Olsa
2013-05-09 13:32 ` [PATCH 3/9] perf tests: Add precise event automated test Jiri Olsa
2013-05-09 13:32 ` [PATCH 4/9] perf tools: Add a precise event qualifier Jiri Olsa
2013-05-10  1:43   ` Namhyung Kim
2013-05-10  9:10     ` Jiri Olsa
2013-05-09 13:32 ` [PATCH 5/9] perf tools: Set maximum precise value for event 'p' modifier Jiri Olsa
2013-05-09 19:43   ` David Ahern
2013-05-10  9:12     ` Jiri Olsa
2013-05-10  1:53   ` Namhyung Kim
2013-05-10  9:16     ` Jiri Olsa
2013-05-09 13:32 ` [PATCH 6/9] perf tools: Set maximum precise value for 'precise' term Jiri Olsa
2013-05-09 13:32 ` [PATCH 7/9] perf tests: Add automated precise term test Jiri Olsa
2013-05-09 13:32 ` [PATCH 8/9] perf: Document the ABI for 'precise' sysfs attribute Jiri Olsa
2013-05-10  1:57   ` Namhyung Kim
2013-05-09 13:32 ` [PATCH 9/9] perf: Document the ABI for 'rdpmc' " Jiri Olsa
2013-05-09 15:07 ` [PATCH 0/9] perf: Adding better precise_ip field handling Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-09 15:20   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-05-10  9:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-10  9:40       ` Jiri Olsa
2013-05-10  9:53         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-10 10:18           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-10 10:22             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-10 10:31               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-05-10 10:34                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-10 10:55                   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-10 11:27                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-11  7:50                       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-13  9:36                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-13 19:43                           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-14  7:22                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-14  8:37                               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-14  8:36                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-15 13:27                             ` Stephane Eranian
2013-05-28  9:54                               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-10  9:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-10  9:43       ` Jiri Olsa
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-01-26 17:27 Jiri Olsa
2013-01-26 18:53 ` Jiri Olsa
2013-01-27 12:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-01-27 12:57   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-01-27 13:02     ` Ingo Molnar

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