From: Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
Robert Jennings <rcj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
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Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
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Hugh Dickens <hughd@google.com>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv11 2/4] zbud: add to mm/
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 10:42:25 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130520154225.GA25536@cerebellum> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130520135439.GR11497@suse.de>
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 02:54:39PM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 03:52:19PM -0500, Seth Jennings wrote:
> > My first guess is that the external fragmentation situation you are referring to
> > is a workload in which all pages compress to greater than half a page. If so,
> > then it doesn't matter what NCHUCNKS_ORDER is, there won't be any pages the
> > compress enough to fit in the < PAGE_SIZE/2 free space that remains in the
> > unbuddied zbud pages.
> >
>
> There are numerous aspects to this, too many to write them all down.
> Modelling the external fragmentation one and how it affects swap IO
> would be a complete pain in the ass so lets consider the following
> example instead as it's a bit clearer.
>
> Three processes. Process A compresses by 75%, Process B compresses to 15%,
> Process C pages compress to 15%. They are all adding to zswap in lockstep.
> Lets say that zswap can hold 100 physical pages.
>
> NCHUNKS == 2
> All Process A pages get rejected.
Ah, I think this is our disconnect. Process A pages will not be rejected.
They will be stored in a zbud page, and that zbud page will be added
to the 0th unbuddied list. This list maintains a list of zbud pages
that will never be buddied because there are no free chunks.
In other words, changing NCHUNKS has no effect on the acceptable size
of allocations.
Seth
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-20 15:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-13 12:39 [PATCHv11 0/4] zswap: compressed swap caching Seth Jennings
2013-05-13 12:40 ` [PATCHv11 1/4] debugfs: add get/set for atomic types Seth Jennings
2013-05-16 14:58 ` Rik van Riel
2013-05-13 12:40 ` [PATCHv11 2/4] zbud: add to mm/ Seth Jennings
2013-05-14 8:47 ` Bob Liu
2013-05-14 17:03 ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-16 15:30 ` Rik van Riel
2013-05-17 15:48 ` Mel Gorman
2013-05-19 20:52 ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-20 13:54 ` Mel Gorman
2013-05-20 15:42 ` Seth Jennings [this message]
2013-05-21 8:10 ` Mel Gorman
2013-05-23 2:00 ` Bob Liu
2013-05-23 9:52 ` Mel Gorman
2013-05-13 12:40 ` [PATCHv11 3/4] zswap: " Seth Jennings
2013-05-14 9:19 ` Bob Liu
2013-05-14 16:00 ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-14 16:37 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-05-14 17:28 ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-14 20:54 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-05-17 17:00 ` Mel Gorman
2013-05-16 17:16 ` Rik van Riel
2013-05-17 16:54 ` Mel Gorman
2013-05-19 23:33 ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-13 12:40 ` [PATCHv11 4/4] zswap: add documentation Seth Jennings
2013-05-16 17:06 ` Rik van Riel
2013-05-17 16:04 ` Mel Gorman
[not found] <<1368448803-2089-1-git-send-email-sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <<1368448803-2089-3-git-send-email-sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2013-05-13 15:43 ` [PATCHv11 2/4] zbud: add to mm/ Dan Magenheimer
2013-05-13 20:59 ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-16 15:30 ` Rik van Riel
[not found] ` <<1368448803-2089-4-git-send-email-sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2013-05-13 22:31 ` [PATCHv11 3/4] zswap: " Dan Magenheimer
2013-05-14 16:35 ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-14 20:18 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-05-14 22:55 ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-15 17:09 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-05-15 18:55 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-15 19:35 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-05-15 20:45 ` Rik van Riel
2013-05-15 21:36 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-05-15 22:01 ` Rik van Riel
2013-05-15 20:09 ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-15 20:24 ` Dave Hansen
2013-05-15 20:55 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-05-15 20:45 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-15 20:52 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-05-15 22:14 ` Rik van Riel
2013-05-16 16:45 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-05-16 17:06 ` Rik van Riel
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