From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Russ Anderson <rja@sgi.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, joeyli <jlee@suse.com>,
Matt Fleming <matt@console-pimps.org>,
matt.fleming@intel.com, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [regression, bisected] x86: efi: Pass boot services variable info to runtime code
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 01:03:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130601000311.GA15126@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130531225730.GB14752@sgi.com>
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 05:57:31PM -0500, Russ Anderson wrote:
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 05:28:16PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > If nvram becaomes full, some
> > systems crash during firmware initialisation. So we can't let nvram
> > become full. The obvious thing to do here is to look at the values from
> > QueryVariableInfo, but many systems won't perform any garbage collection
> > until they're almost out of space and so variables that have been
> > deleted still show up as used space.
>
> OK. I get nvram looks full due to lack of garbage collection
> on some systems. Does QueryVariableInfo (at runtime) tell you
> it is full? Is the problem that it says it is full when it
> is not, or does not tell you it is full when it is?
QueryVariableInfo reports the amount used *including garbage*. This
makes it useless for determining how much space is available for the
firmware to use.
> > We can work around that by adding
> > up the size of the variables ourselves, but that only gives us the value
> > for runtime-visible variables. We also need to know how much space is
> > used by variables that are only visible during boot,
>
> Is it valid to assume that only the kernel writes to nvram at
> runtime? Can bios log error information to nvram on an SMM
> interrupt (for example)?
There's a limited number of situations where the firmware can write to
nvram, but they're basically uninteresting. Practically speaking, it's
always via the kernel once ExitBootServices() has been called.
> > hence calling
> > QueryVariableInfo before ExitBootServices.
>
> Correct me if I am wrong, but that is called from EFI stubs,
> which is only used by some bootloaders (sometimes grub2).
> Does that mean EFI/grub and EFI/elilo will not hit the problem,
> or will not have your fix?
Will not have the fix. Boot EFI systems via the EFI stub.
--
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-01 0:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-22 16:27 [regression, bisected] x86: efi: Pass boot services variable info to runtime code Russ Anderson
2013-05-23 11:58 ` Matt Fleming
2013-05-23 20:32 ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-24 7:43 ` Matt Fleming
2013-05-24 11:09 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-05-24 11:40 ` Matt Fleming
2013-05-24 16:11 ` Robin Holt
2013-05-24 17:02 ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-24 21:05 ` Dave Jones
2013-05-27 4:27 ` joeyli
2013-05-27 4:32 ` joeyli
2013-05-28 2:43 ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-24 20:05 ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-24 20:11 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-24 20:49 ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-28 10:50 ` Matt Fleming
2013-05-28 10:53 ` Matt Fleming
2013-05-28 8:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-29 21:01 ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-29 22:22 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-05-29 22:46 ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-29 22:53 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-05-30 2:16 ` joeyli
2013-05-30 22:17 ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-30 22:21 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-30 22:28 ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-30 22:30 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-05-31 2:17 ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-31 3:28 ` joeyli
2013-05-30 22:32 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-31 2:54 ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-31 10:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-30 22:25 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-05-31 10:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-31 11:06 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-05-31 11:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-31 11:54 ` Josh Boyer
2013-05-31 12:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-05-31 12:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-31 14:34 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-31 14:42 ` James Bottomley
2013-05-31 14:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-05-31 14:48 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-31 15:43 ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-31 16:28 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-31 17:35 ` James Bottomley
2013-05-31 22:57 ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-31 22:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-05-31 23:30 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-06-01 0:03 ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2013-06-01 4:20 ` Russ Anderson
2013-06-01 4:41 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-01 11:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-01 14:40 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-30 2:38 ` joeyli
2013-05-23 22:23 ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-24 7:45 ` Matt Fleming
2013-05-29 20:16 ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-31 14:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
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