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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Russ Anderson <rja@sgi.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, joeyli <jlee@suse.com>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@console-pimps.org>,
	matt.fleming@intel.com, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [regression, bisected] x86: efi: Pass boot services variable info to runtime code
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 01:03:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130601000311.GA15126@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130531225730.GB14752@sgi.com>

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 05:57:31PM -0500, Russ Anderson wrote:
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 05:28:16PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> >                                           If nvram becaomes full, some 
> > systems crash during firmware initialisation. So we can't let nvram 
> > become full. The obvious thing to do here is to look at the values from 
> > QueryVariableInfo, but many systems won't perform any garbage collection 
> > until they're almost out of space and so variables that have been 
> > deleted still show up as used space.
> 
> OK.  I get nvram looks full due to lack of garbage collection
> on some systems.  Does QueryVariableInfo (at runtime) tell you
> it is full?  Is the problem that it says it is full when it
> is not, or does not tell you it is full when it is?

QueryVariableInfo reports the amount used *including garbage*. This 
makes it useless for determining how much space is available for the 
firmware to use.

> >                                       We can work around that by adding 
> > up the size of the variables ourselves, but that only gives us the value 
> > for runtime-visible variables. We also need to know how much space is 
> > used by variables that are only visible during boot,
> 
> Is it valid to assume that only the kernel writes to nvram at
> runtime?  Can bios log error information to nvram on an SMM
> interrupt (for example)?

There's a limited number of situations where the firmware can write to 
nvram, but they're basically uninteresting. Practically speaking, it's 
always via the kernel once ExitBootServices() has been called.

> >                                                      hence calling 
> > QueryVariableInfo before ExitBootServices.
> 
> Correct me if I am wrong, but that is called from EFI stubs,
> which is only used by some bootloaders (sometimes grub2).
> Does that mean EFI/grub and EFI/elilo will not hit the problem,
> or will not have your fix?

Will not have the fix. Boot EFI systems via the EFI stub.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-01  0:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-22 16:27 [regression, bisected] x86: efi: Pass boot services variable info to runtime code Russ Anderson
2013-05-23 11:58 ` Matt Fleming
2013-05-23 20:32   ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-24  7:43     ` Matt Fleming
2013-05-24 11:09       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-05-24 11:40         ` Matt Fleming
2013-05-24 16:11       ` Robin Holt
2013-05-24 17:02         ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-24 21:05           ` Dave Jones
2013-05-27  4:27             ` joeyli
2013-05-27  4:32               ` joeyli
2013-05-28  2:43               ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-24 20:05       ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-24 20:11         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-24 20:49           ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-28 10:50             ` Matt Fleming
2013-05-28 10:53         ` Matt Fleming
2013-05-28  8:35       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-29 21:01       ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-29 22:22         ` Jiri Kosina
2013-05-29 22:46           ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-29 22:53             ` Jiri Kosina
2013-05-30  2:16               ` joeyli
2013-05-30 22:17                 ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-30 22:21                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-30 22:28                     ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-30 22:30                       ` Jiri Kosina
2013-05-31  2:17                         ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-31  3:28                           ` joeyli
2013-05-30 22:32                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-31  2:54                         ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-31 10:06                           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-30 22:25                   ` Jiri Kosina
2013-05-31 10:12                     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-31 11:06                       ` Jiri Kosina
2013-05-31 11:40                         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-31 11:54                           ` Josh Boyer
2013-05-31 12:30                         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-05-31 12:43                           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-05-31 14:34                             ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-31 14:42                               ` James Bottomley
2013-05-31 14:45                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-05-31 14:48                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-31 15:43                                   ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-31 16:28                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-31 17:35                                       ` James Bottomley
2013-05-31 22:57                                       ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-31 22:59                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-05-31 23:30                                         ` Jiri Kosina
2013-06-01  0:03                                         ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2013-06-01  4:20                                           ` Russ Anderson
2013-06-01  4:41                                             ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-01 11:01                               ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-01 14:40                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-05-30  2:38             ` joeyli
2013-05-23 22:23   ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-24  7:45     ` Matt Fleming
2013-05-29 20:16       ` Russ Anderson
2013-05-31 14:41         ` H. Peter Anvin

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