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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Patch v5 0/9] liblockdep: userspace lockdep
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:07:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130627090722.GC4398@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51CB4328.7010006@oracle.com>


* Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com> wrote:

> On 06/26/2013 11:53 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >>Ingo, I don't think I see anything holding this back; however I remember
> >>>reading some email about people not liking stuff like this living in the
> >>>tools/ directory or such.
> >>>
> >>>Will you pick this up?
> >So I'd really be interested in how interesting/useful this is to userspace
> >developers? Does it work for something complex as Firefox, or Apache, to
> >the extent they make use of these locking APIs?
> 
> So far I've tested it on Firefox, Apache, QEMU, LKVM, GCC and random 
> smallish programs. I haven't really done full testing for each of those, 
> but just made sure that liblockdep behaves as it supposed to. I'm 
> guessing that with further work it will dig up actual issues.

The other issue is that with lock classes disabled you have to hit an 
actual deadlock to trigger any output.

I.e. much of the power of lockdep is diminished :-/ When actual deadlocks 
are triggered then it's not particularly complex to debug user-space apps: 
gdb the hung task(s) and look at the backtraces.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-27  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-13 22:41 [Patch v5 0/9] liblockdep: userspace lockdep Sasha Levin
2013-06-13 22:41 ` [Patch v5 1/9] lockdep: Be nice about building from userspace Sasha Levin
2013-06-13 22:41 ` [Patch v5 2/9] liblockdep: Wrap kernel/lockdep.c to allow usage " Sasha Levin
2013-11-27 14:08   ` [tip:core/locking] liblockdep: Wrap kernel/locking/ lockdep.c " tip-bot for Sasha Levin
2013-06-13 22:41 ` [Patch v5 3/9] liblockdep: Add public headers for pthread_mutex_t implementation Sasha Levin
2013-11-27 14:08   ` [tip:core/locking] " tip-bot for Sasha Levin
2013-06-13 22:41 ` [Patch v5 4/9] liblockdep: Add pthread_mutex_t test suite Sasha Levin
2013-11-27 14:08   ` [tip:core/locking] " tip-bot for Sasha Levin
2013-06-13 22:41 ` [Patch v5 5/9] liblockdep: Add public headers for pthread_rwlock_t implementation Sasha Levin
2013-11-27 14:09   ` [tip:core/locking] " tip-bot for Sasha Levin
2013-06-13 22:41 ` [Patch v5 6/9] liblockdep: Add pthread_rwlock_t test suite Sasha Levin
2013-11-27 14:09   ` [tip:core/locking] " tip-bot for Sasha Levin
2013-06-13 22:41 ` [Patch v5 7/9] liblockdep: Support using LD_PRELOAD Sasha Levin
2013-11-27 14:09   ` [tip:core/locking] " tip-bot for Sasha Levin
2013-06-13 22:41 ` [Patch v5 8/9] liblockdep: Add the 'lockdep' user-space utility Sasha Levin
2013-11-27 14:09   ` [tip:core/locking] " tip-bot for Sasha Levin
2013-06-13 22:41 ` [Patch v5 9/9] liblockdep: Add a MAINTAINERS entry Sasha Levin
2013-11-27 14:09   ` [tip:core/locking] " tip-bot for Sasha Levin
2013-06-26 12:24 ` [Patch v5 0/9] liblockdep: userspace lockdep Peter Zijlstra
2013-06-26 15:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-26 19:38     ` Sasha Levin
2013-06-27  9:05       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-27  9:07       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-06-27 13:55         ` Sasha Levin
2013-07-08  1:14           ` Sasha Levin
2013-07-08  8:39             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-12 17:40               ` Sasha Levin
2013-09-12 18:01                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-14 16:59                   ` Sasha Levin
2013-11-08 17:04                   ` Sasha Levin
2013-11-09 16:01                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-11 15:56                     ` Peter Zijlstra

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