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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
	edumazet@google.com, darren@dvhart.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	sbw@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC nohz_full 0/7] v2 Provide infrastructure for full-system idle
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:56:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130701195603.GT3773@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0000013f9bc32a5e-258db1be-840b-4b2f-9b3f-e1e3d5253cfc-000000@email.amazonses.com>

On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 07:43:47PM +0000, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> 
> > Unfortunately, timekeeping CPU continues taking scheduling-clock
> > interrupts even when all other CPUs are completely idle, which is
> > not so good for energy efficiency and battery lifetime.  Clearly, it
> > would be good to turn off the timekeeping CPU's scheduling-clock tick
> > when all CPUs are completely idle.  This is conceptually simple, but
> > we also need good performance and scalability on large systems, which
> > rules out implementations based on frequently updated global counts of
> > non-idle CPUs as well as implementations that frequently scan all CPUs.
> > Nevertheless, we need a single global indicator in order to keep the
> > overhead of checking acceptably low.
> 
> Can we turn off timekeeping when no cpu needs time in adaptive mode?
> Setting breakpoints in the VDSO could force timekeeping on again whenever
> something needs time. Would this not be simpler?

Might be.  But what causes the breakpoints to be set on a system where
there is one CPU-bound nohz_full user-mode task with all other CPUs idle?
Or are you suggesting taking a breakpoint trap on each timekeeping access
to VDSO?

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-01 19:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-28 20:09 [PATCH RFC nohz_full 0/7] v2 Provide infrastructure for full-system idle Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-28 20:10 ` [PATCH RFC nohz_full v2 1/7] nohz_full: Add Kconfig parameter for scalable detection of all-idle state Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-28 20:10   ` [PATCH RFC nohz_full v2 2/7] nohz_full: Add rcu_dyntick data " Paul E. McKenney
2013-07-01 15:31     ` Josh Triplett
2013-07-01 15:52       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-07-01 18:16         ` Josh Triplett
2013-07-01 18:23           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-07-01 18:34             ` Josh Triplett
2013-07-01 19:16               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-07-02  5:10                 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-02  5:58                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-28 20:10   ` [PATCH RFC nohz_full v2 3/7] nohz_full: Add per-CPU idle-state tracking Paul E. McKenney
2013-07-01 15:33     ` Josh Triplett
2013-06-28 20:10   ` [PATCH RFC nohz_full v2 4/7] nohz_full: Add full-system idle states and variables Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-28 20:10   ` [PATCH RFC nohz_full v2 5/7] nohz_full: Add full-system-idle arguments to API Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-28 20:10   ` [PATCH RFC nohz_full v2 6/7] nohz_full: Add full-system-idle state machine Paul E. McKenney
2013-07-01 16:35     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-07-01 18:10       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-07-01 20:55         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-07-01 16:53     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-07-01 18:17       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-07-01 21:38     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-07-01 22:51       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-28 20:10   ` [PATCH RFC nohz_full v2 7/7] nohz_full: Force RCU's grace-period kthreads onto timekeeping CPU Paul E. McKenney
2013-07-01 15:19 ` [PATCH RFC nohz_full 0/7] v2 Provide infrastructure for full-system idle Andi Kleen
2013-07-01 16:03   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-07-01 16:19     ` Andi Kleen
2013-07-01 19:19       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-07-01 19:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2013-07-01 19:56   ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2013-07-01 20:24     ` Christoph Lameter
2013-07-01 20:43       ` Thomas Gleixner

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