From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
axboe@kernel.dk
Subject: Re: block layer softlockup
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 02:01:46 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130702060146.GA5835@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130702020741.GE4072@dastard>
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 12:07:41PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 01:57:34PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 01:54:37PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 04:54:53PM -1000, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Right, that will be what is happening - the entire system will go
> > > > > unresponsive when a sync call happens, so it's entirely possible
> > > > > to see the soft lockups on inode_sb_list_add()/inode_sb_list_del()
> > > > > trying to get the lock because of the way ticket spinlocks work...
> > > >
> > > > So what made it all start happening now? I don't recall us having had
> > > > these kinds of issues before..
> > >
> > > Not sure - it's a sudden surprise for me, too. Then again, I haven't
> > > been looking at sync from a performance or lock contention point of
> > > view any time recently. The algorithm that wait_sb_inodes() is
> > > effectively unchanged since at least 2009, so it's probably a case
> > > of it having been protected from contention by some external factor
> > > we've fixed/removed recently. Perhaps the bdi-flusher thread
> > > replacement in -rc1 has changed the timing sufficiently that it no
> > > longer serialises concurrent sync calls as much....
> >
> > This mornings new trace reminded me of this last sentence. Related ?
>
> Was this running the last patch I posted, or a vanilla kernel?
yeah, this had v2 of your patch (the one post lockdep warnings)
> That's doing IO completion processing in softirq time, and the lock
> it just dropped was the q->queue_lock. But that lock is held over
> end IO processing, so it is possible that the way the page writeback
> transition handling of my POC patch caused this.
>
> FWIW, I've attached a simple patch you might like to try to see if
> it *minimises* the inode_sb_list_lock contention problems. All it
> does is try to prevent concurrent entry in wait_sb_inodes() for a
> given superblock and hence only have one walker on the contending
> filesystem at a time. Replace the previous one I sent with it. If
> that doesn't work, I have another simple patch that makes the
> inode_sb_list_lock per-sb to take this isolation even further....
I can try it, though as always, proving a negative....
Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-02 6:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-19 16:45 frequent softlockups with 3.10rc6 Dave Jones
2013-06-19 17:53 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-19 18:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-19 18:42 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-20 0:12 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-20 16:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-20 16:27 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-21 15:11 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-21 19:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-22 1:37 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-22 17:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-22 21:59 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-23 5:00 ` Andrew Vagin
2013-06-23 14:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-23 15:06 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-23 16:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-24 0:21 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 2:00 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 14:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-24 14:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-24 16:00 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 16:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-24 16:51 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 17:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 16:55 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-25 17:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 17:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 17:26 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-25 17:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 17:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 17:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 17:34 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 16:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-24 16:49 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 15:57 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 17:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-24 17:44 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 17:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-24 18:00 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-25 15:35 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-25 16:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-26 5:23 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-26 19:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-26 20:00 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-27 3:01 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-26 5:48 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-26 19:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-26 19:40 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-27 0:22 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-27 1:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-06-27 2:32 ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-27 7:55 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27 10:06 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27 12:52 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27 15:21 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-28 1:13 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-28 3:58 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-28 10:28 ` Jan Kara
2013-06-29 3:39 ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-01 12:00 ` Jan Kara
2013-07-02 6:29 ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-02 8:19 ` Jan Kara
2013-07-02 12:38 ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-02 14:05 ` Jan Kara
2013-07-02 16:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-02 16:57 ` Jan Kara
2013-07-02 17:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-03 3:07 ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-03 3:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-03 4:49 ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-04 7:19 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-29 20:13 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-29 22:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-29 23:44 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-30 0:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-01 12:49 ` Pavel Machek
2013-06-30 0:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-30 2:05 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-30 2:34 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27 14:30 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-28 1:18 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-28 2:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-28 3:54 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-28 5:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-28 7:21 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-28 8:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-28 8:32 ` Al Viro
2013-06-28 8:22 ` Al Viro
2013-06-28 9:49 ` Jan Kara
2013-07-01 17:57 ` block layer softlockup Dave Jones
2013-07-02 2:07 ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-02 6:01 ` Dave Jones [this message]
2013-07-02 7:30 ` Dave Chinner
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