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From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	axboe@kernel.dk
Subject: Re: block layer softlockup
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 02:01:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130702060146.GA5835@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130702020741.GE4072@dastard>

On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 12:07:41PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
 > On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 01:57:34PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
 > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 01:54:37PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
 > >  > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 04:54:53PM -1000, Linus Torvalds wrote:
 > >  > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
 > >  > > >
 > >  > > > Right, that will be what is happening - the entire system will go
 > >  > > > unresponsive when a sync call happens, so it's entirely possible
 > >  > > > to see the soft lockups on inode_sb_list_add()/inode_sb_list_del()
 > >  > > > trying to get the lock because of the way ticket spinlocks work...
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > So what made it all start happening now? I don't recall us having had
 > >  > > these kinds of issues before..
 > >  > 
 > >  > Not sure - it's a sudden surprise for me, too. Then again, I haven't
 > >  > been looking at sync from a performance or lock contention point of
 > >  > view any time recently.  The algorithm that wait_sb_inodes() is
 > >  > effectively unchanged since at least 2009, so it's probably a case
 > >  > of it having been protected from contention by some external factor
 > >  > we've fixed/removed recently.  Perhaps the bdi-flusher thread
 > >  > replacement in -rc1 has changed the timing sufficiently that it no
 > >  > longer serialises concurrent sync calls as much....
 > > 
 > > This mornings new trace reminded me of this last sentence. Related ?
 > 
 > Was this running the last patch I posted, or a vanilla kernel?

yeah, this had v2 of your patch (the one post lockdep warnings)

 > That's doing IO completion processing in softirq time, and the lock
 > it just dropped was the q->queue_lock. But that lock is held over
 > end IO processing, so it is possible that the way the page writeback
 > transition handling of my POC patch caused this.
 > 
 > FWIW, I've attached a simple patch you might like to try to see if
 > it *minimises* the inode_sb_list_lock contention problems. All it
 > does is try to prevent concurrent entry in wait_sb_inodes() for a
 > given superblock and hence only have one walker on the contending
 > filesystem at a time. Replace the previous one I sent with it. If
 > that doesn't work, I have another simple patch that makes the
 > inode_sb_list_lock per-sb to take this isolation even further....
 
I can try it, though as always, proving a negative....

	Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-02  6:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-19 16:45 frequent softlockups with 3.10rc6 Dave Jones
2013-06-19 17:53 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-19 18:13   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-19 18:42     ` Dave Jones
2013-06-20  0:12     ` Dave Jones
2013-06-20 16:16       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-20 16:27         ` Dave Jones
2013-06-21 15:11         ` Dave Jones
2013-06-21 19:59           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-22  1:37             ` Dave Jones
2013-06-22 17:31               ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-22 21:59                 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-23  5:00                   ` Andrew Vagin
2013-06-23 14:36                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-23 15:06                     ` Dave Jones
2013-06-23 16:04                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-24  0:21                         ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24  2:00                         ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 14:39                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-24 14:52                             ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-24 16:00                               ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 16:24                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-24 16:51                                   ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 17:04                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 16:55                                       ` Dave Jones
2013-06-25 17:21                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 17:23                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 17:26                                           ` Dave Jones
2013-06-25 17:31                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 17:32                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 17:29                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 17:34                                             ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 16:37                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-24 16:49                                   ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 15:57                         ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 17:35                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-24 17:44                             ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 17:53                             ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-24 18:00                               ` Dave Jones
2013-06-25 15:35                             ` Dave Jones
2013-06-25 16:23                               ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-26  5:23                                 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-26 19:52                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-26 20:00                                     ` Dave Jones
2013-06-27  3:01                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-26  5:48                                 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-26 19:18                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-26 19:40                                 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-27  0:22                                 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-27  1:06                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-06-27  2:32                                     ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-27  7:55                                   ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27 10:06                                     ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27 12:52                                       ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27 15:21                                         ` Dave Jones
2013-06-28  1:13                                           ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-28  3:58                                             ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-28 10:28                                               ` Jan Kara
2013-06-29  3:39                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-01 12:00                                                   ` Jan Kara
2013-07-02  6:29                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-02  8:19                                                       ` Jan Kara
2013-07-02 12:38                                                         ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-02 14:05                                                           ` Jan Kara
2013-07-02 16:13                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-02 16:57                                                               ` Jan Kara
2013-07-02 17:38                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-03  3:07                                                                   ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-03  3:28                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-03  4:49                                                                       ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-04  7:19                                                                         ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-29 20:13                                               ` Dave Jones
2013-06-29 22:23                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-29 23:44                                                   ` Dave Jones
2013-06-30  0:21                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-01 12:49                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2013-06-30  0:17                                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-30  2:05                                                   ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-30  2:34                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27 14:30                                     ` Dave Jones
2013-06-28  1:18                                       ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-28  2:54                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-28  3:54                                           ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-28  5:59                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-28  7:21                                               ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-28  8:22                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-28  8:32                                                   ` Al Viro
2013-06-28  8:22                                               ` Al Viro
2013-06-28  9:49                                               ` Jan Kara
2013-07-01 17:57                                             ` block layer softlockup Dave Jones
2013-07-02  2:07                                               ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-02  6:01                                                 ` Dave Jones [this message]
2013-07-02  7:30                                                   ` Dave Chinner

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