From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757405Ab3GLIcK (ORCPT ); Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:32:10 -0400 Received: from mail-ee0-f51.google.com ([74.125.83.51]:63590 "EHLO mail-ee0-f51.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757283Ab3GLIcI (ORCPT ); Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:32:08 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 10:32:02 +0200 From: Richard Cochran To: Mark Galeck Cc: Bjorn Helgaas , Pavel Machek , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: is it desirable to improve the build system? Message-ID: <20130712083202.GB5032@netboy> References: <1372723921.53875.YahooMailNeo@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130711113822.GA18579@amd.pavel.ucw.cz> <1373577734.39761.YahooMailNeo@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1373577734.39761.YahooMailNeo@web182202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 02:22:14PM -0700, Mark Galeck wrote: > >The answer to "is it desirable to improve X?" is always "yes."  But > > the only way to make progress in Linux is to actually post patches > that "improve X."  This is unlike many corporate environments, where > you might need to get somebody's approval > > > Precisely. Please excuse me coming from a corporate background.  > In corporate, even if you "get somebody's approval", there may be "other stakeholders" who may "feel ownership" etc etc Yes, your approved project may get canned later. But the point was, that you aren't allowed to even get started without someone's approval. Thanks, Richard