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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	rostedt@goodmis.org
Subject: Re: nohz: Warn if the machine can not perform nohz_full
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:01:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130716010135.GB13562@somewhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130715172423.GA27745@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 01:24:23PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 07:18:02PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>  
>  > > So I guess you guys never want this to be enabled on distro kernels ?
>  > > If that's the case, can you add something to that effect in Kconfig ?
>  > 
>  > I believe we want it to be enabled on distros in the long term. But right now it would
>  > be a bad idea until the off case (nohz_full= parameter empty) is carefully optimized.
>  > I'm currently working on that.
>  > 
>  > Now for the unstable tsc, which is what it's about on the above code block, we need
>  > the tick to be there to leverage the sched clock madness. May be there could be some
>  > other solution that could work along full dynticks but for now we chose the easy path.
>  > 
>  > Are broken TSCs that common?
>  
> I just hit one apparently.  http://paste.fedoraproject.org/25421/73907845/raw/
> That's a fairly recent Atom board, so I suspect it's not uncommon on that platform.
> 
>  > Also what is the preffered way to tell the distros that they shouldn't enable that option
>  > for now? Here is what we currently have in the tail of the related Kconfig help:
>  > 
>  >         This is implemented at the expense of some overhead in user <-> kernel
>  >         transitions: syscalls, exceptions and interrupts. Even when it's
>  >         dynamically off.
> 
> "This feature is not ready to be deployed" ?

I can try this one. Or may be I should be more direct and put:

"This feature is not ready to be deployed on distros"

> 
> "This will taint the kernel if it decides it can't work" ?
> 
> 	Dave
> 

      parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-16  1:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-15 17:08 nohz: Warn if the machine can not perform nohz_full Dave Jones
2013-07-15 17:18 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-07-15 17:24   ` Dave Jones
2013-07-15 17:38     ` Dave Jones
2013-07-15 18:49       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-15 18:56         ` Dave Jones
2013-07-15 19:30           ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-16  1:10             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-07-16  1:05         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-07-16 14:22           ` [PATCH] nohz: Do not warn about unstable tsc unless user uses nohz_full Steven Rostedt
2013-07-16 16:12             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-07-16  1:03       ` nohz: Warn if the machine can not perform nohz_full Frederic Weisbecker
2013-07-16  1:01     ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]

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