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From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Ben Myers <bpm@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: splice vs execve lockdep trace.
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 22:38:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130716023847.GA31481@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyLbqJp0-=7=HOF9sKGOHwsa7A7-V76b8tbsnra8Z2=-w@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 07:32:51PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:

 > So the problematic op *seems* to be the splice into /proc/<pid>/attr/
 > files, which causes that "pipe -> cred_guard_mutex" locking.
 > 
 > While the *normal* ordering would be the other way around, coming from
 > execve(), which has the cred_guard_mutex -> VFS locks ordering for
 > reading the executable headers.
 > 
 > Al, can we break either of those? Do we need to hold on to the cred
 > mutex that long? We get it fairly early (prepare_bprm_creds) and we
 > drop it very late (install_exec_creds), which means that it covers a
 > lot. But that seems pretty basic. The splice into /proc/<pid>/attr/*
 > seems to be the more annoying one, and maybe we just shouldn't allow
 > splicing into or from /proc?
 > 
 > Dave, is this new (it doesn't *smell* new to me), or is it just that
 > trinity is doing new splice things?
 
I think I've seen this a long time ago from another fuzzer (iknowthis).
I thought that had gotten fixed though.  But I may be mixing up a
similar callchain.  The recent trinity changes shouldn't have really made
any notable difference here.  Interestingly, the 'soft lockups' I was
seeing all the time on that box seem to have gone into hiding.

 > Or is the XFS i_iolock required for this thing to happen at all?
 > Adding Ben Myers to the cc just for luck/completeness.

It is only happening (so far) on the XFS test box, but I don't have
enough data to say that's definite yet.
 
	Dave
 

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-16  2:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-16  1:53 splice vs execve lockdep trace Dave Jones
2013-07-16  2:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-16  2:38   ` Dave Jones [this message]
2013-07-16  3:25     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-16  3:28       ` Dave Jones
2013-07-16  5:31       ` Al Viro
2013-07-16  6:03       ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-16  6:16         ` Al Viro
2013-07-16  6:41           ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-16  6:50           ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-16 19:33         ` Ben Myers
2013-07-16 20:18           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-16 20:43             ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-16 21:02               ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-17  4:06                 ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-17  4:54                   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-17  5:51                     ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-17 16:03                       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-17 23:40                         ` Ben Myers
2013-07-18  0:17                           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-18  3:42                             ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-18 21:16                               ` Ben Myers
2013-07-18 22:21                                 ` Ben Myers
2013-07-18 22:49                                   ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-18  3:17                         ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-16 13:59       ` Vince Weaver
2013-07-16 15:02         ` Dave Jones

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