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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Hunter <ahh@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, x86@kernel.org, Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] x86: avoid per_cpu for APIC id tables
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 10:24:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130719082422.GA25787@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130718065249.GA17622@gmail.com>


* Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:

> [...]
> 
> Also, if the goal is to pack better then we could do even better than 
> that: we could create a 'struct x86_apic_ids':
> 
>   struct x86_apic_ids {
> 	u16 bios_apicid;
> 	u16 apicid;
> 	u32 logical_apicid;	/* NOTE: does this really have to be 32-bit? */
>   };
> 
> and put that into an explicit, [NR_CPUS] array. This preserves the tight 
> coupling between fields that PER_CPU offered, requiring only a single 
> cacheline fetch in the cache-cold case, while also giving efficient, 
> packed caching for cache-hot remote wakeups.
> 
> [ Assuming remote wakeups access all of these fields in the hot path to 
>   generate an IPI. Do they? ]
> 
> Also, this NR_CPUS array should be cache-aligned and read-mostly, to avoid 
> false sharing artifacts. Your current patch does not do either.

Btw., if you implement the changes I suggested and the patch still 
provides a robust 10% improvement in the cross-wakeup benchmark over the 
vanilla kernel then that will be a pretty good indication that it's the 
cache-hot layout and decreased indirection cost that makes the difference 
- and then we'd of course want to merge your patch upstream.

Also, a comment should be added to the new [NR_CPUS] array explaining that 
it's a special data structure that is almost always accessed from remote 
CPUs, and that for that reason PER_CPU accesses are sub-optimal: to 
prevent someone else from naively PER_CPU-ifying the [NR_CPUS] array later 
on ;-)

Thanks,

	Ingo

      parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-19  8:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-17 19:41 [RFC] [PATCH] x86: avoid per_cpu for APIC id tables Andrew Hunter
2013-07-18  6:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-18  8:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-18 10:45     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-18 10:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-19  8:24   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]

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