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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 3.11-rc2
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:25:17 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130722012517.GD11674@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFy330bSRjK5HT1n0wXioPykL3RquHXyBPjm5GpTz_Y=DQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 12:53:10PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> So it's been another week, and -rc2 is out there.
> 
> The patch looks a bit odd, because by bulk 95% of the patch is just
> the removal of the CSR staging driver that wasn't getting any
> traction, so the diffstat (and the dirstat in particular) is not very
> interesting or readable, since that driver removal basically
> overshadows everything else. But I do admit to love seeing code
> removal patches.
> 
> And of the rest of the patch, a noticeable part is all those
> one-liners all over that just remove the __cpuinit markers that people
> agreed were just more pain than gain to maintain. We had already made
> the markers be no-ops earlier, so they didn't matter for code
> generation, and here in rc2 they get actually removed.
> 
> End result: we have two separate events that generate a lot of noise
> in the patch, but aren't really interesting per se. They do make the
> patch harder to read, though.
> 
> Ignoring those noisy parts of the patch, there's a couple of things
> worth noting about rc2. I think most of the patches here are nice
> fixes, but I wanted to give two heads-ups:
> 
>  (a) the O_TMPFILE flag that is new to 3.11 has been going through a
> few ABI/API cleanups (and a few fixes to the implementation too), but
> I think we're done now. So if you're interested in the concept of
> unnamed temporary files, go ahead and test it out. The lack of name
> not only gets rid of races/complications with filename generation, it
> can make the whole thing more efficient since you don't have the
> directory operations that can cause serializing IO etc.

I'll just point out that it can make the whole thing worse, too.
For example, for ext3/4, the tmpfile being created has to be added
to the orphan inode list which is protected by a filesystem global
mutex. Hence scalability of O_TMPFILE is massively limited on
ext3/ext4 due to architectural issues within ext3/4. Other
filesystems will be more efficient, but because they have more
scalable/complex orphan inode handling it's going to take longer to
implement O_TMPFILE support for them....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-22  1:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-21 19:53 Linux 3.11-rc2 Linus Torvalds
2013-07-21 21:07 ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-07-22 13:08   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-22 15:43     ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-07-21 23:08 ` James Hogan
2013-07-22 13:02   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-22 13:15     ` Martin Steigerwald
2013-07-22 13:37       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-22 18:46         ` Martin Steigerwald
2013-07-22 19:57           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-24  5:10         ` Kalle Valo
2013-07-22 13:21     ` James Hogan
2013-07-22 18:11     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-22 19:54       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-23 18:46         ` Linux 3.11-rc2 (acpi backlight) Kamal Mostafa
2013-07-24  0:05           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-24  4:54             ` Steven Newbury
2013-07-24  6:49             ` James Hogan
2013-07-24  7:14               ` Mike Galbraith
2013-07-24  7:19               ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-24 12:06                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-24 11:45             ` Jörg Otte
2013-07-25 13:00         ` Linux 3.11-rc2 (acpi backlight, revert) Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-25 14:43           ` Kamal Mostafa
2013-07-25 14:46             ` Daniel Vetter
2013-07-25 14:59               ` Kamal Mostafa
2013-07-25 14:52           ` Jörg Otte
2013-07-25 15:52             ` Jörg Otte
2013-07-25 19:14           ` James Hogan
2013-07-25 19:47             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-26  4:23               ` Joerg Platte
2013-07-26 11:22               ` Igor Gnatenko
2013-07-26  7:43           ` Steven Newbury
2013-07-26 12:09           ` Martin Steigerwald
2013-07-26 12:40             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-04 19:33               ` Martin Steigerwald
2013-08-04 22:15                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-27  5:34           ` Kalle Valo
2013-07-27 12:18             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-22 18:16     ` Linux 3.11-rc2 Matthew Garrett
2013-07-22 19:56       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-23 17:47         ` Steven Newbury
2013-07-23 19:51           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-07-23 21:10             ` Steven Newbury
2013-07-23 21:24           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-07-23 22:49             ` Steven Newbury
2013-07-22  1:25 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2013-07-22  4:06   ` Al Viro
2013-07-24  3:22     ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-23  1:04 ` rydberg
2013-07-23  1:17   ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-07-23 18:31     ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-07-23 19:08       ` rydberg
2013-07-23 20:42         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-23 20:52           ` Myklebust, Trond

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