From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>
Cc: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Tomasz Figa <tomasz.figa@gmail.com>,
Wolfram Sang <w.sang@pengutronix.de>,
Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
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Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
Domenico Andreoli <cavokz@gmail.com>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
"ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
<ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"jonsmirl@gmail.com" <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] Defining schemas for Device Tree
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:50:31 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130730015031.GK29970@voom.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130729172339.GT29916@titan.lakedaemon.net>
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On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 01:23:39PM -0400, Jason Cooper wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 05:49:05PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:01:24AM -0400, Jason Cooper wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 02:21:52AM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote:
>
> > > > b) What information should be specified in schemas? What level of
> > > > granularity is required?
> > >
> > > One item I don't see in this list is node ordering. There's been some
> > > discussion lately on deferred probing (re boot times). If we were to
> > > intentionally declare that DT are parsed in the order written, then a
> > > lot of deferred probes could be avoided by moving eg the pinctrl node to
> > > near the top of the tree.
> > >
> > > This doesn't impact buses as much, since the nodes needing the bus are
> > > already children. However, anything accessed via phandles: pins,
> > > clocks, regulators, etc could benefit from declaring and enforcing this.
> > > Eg having the dtc warn when a phandle is used before it's corresponding
> > > node is declared.
> > >
> > > Not critical though, just a thought.
> >
> > I don't think that siblings have any defined order in DT. If reading a
> > device tree, there's no guarantee you get nodes or properties out in the
> > same order as the original .dts file.
>
> That's why I raised the point. If people think encoding initialization
> order in the DT is a good idea, then we should change the dtc so it
> compiles/decompiles in the same order.
I'm not actually sure what you mean by this. dtc already preserves
order between input and output.
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2013-07-29 17:23 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] Defining schemas for Device Tree Jason Cooper
2013-07-29 17:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-29 19:48 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-29 22:29 ` David Gibson
2013-07-29 22:48 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-29 23:45 ` David Gibson
2013-07-30 12:12 ` Jason Cooper
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