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From: Sarah Sharp <sarah.a.sharp@linux.intel.com>
To: Shawn Nematbakhsh <shawnn@google.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Julius Werner <jwerner@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] usb: xhci: Disable runtime PM suspend for quirky controllers.
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 10:22:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130809172257.GA713@xanatos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALaWCOOGEDtF1z29df2ST9kV-VpMa9VbvFK0Hh71WJG5f_pngA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Shawn,

I noticed that the ChromeOS kernel tree is still using this particular
patch, and thought it was probably time to revisit it.

On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 09:57:57AM -0700, Shawn Nematbakhsh wrote:
> Hi Sarah and Alan,
> 
> Thanks for the comments. I will make the following revisions:
> 
> 1. Call pm_runtime_get_noresume only when the first device is connected,
> and call pm_runtime_put when the last device is disconnected.
> 2. Wrap the calls in an ifdef CONFIG_USB_DEFAULT_PERSIST.
> 3. Make sure that all pm_runtime_get_noresume calls have a corresponding
> pm_runtime_put somewhere (originally the intent was to disable runtime
> suspend "forever", but no longer).
> 
> In principle, would the patch be acceptable with these revisions?

The thread petered off with all other options turning out to be
dead-ends, so yes, if you made those changes, you could get that patch
upstream.  I would like the ChromeOS kernel to be as close to upstream
as possible, so please resubmit this patch with those changes.

Thanks,
Sarah Sharp

> 
> On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 24 May 2013, Sarah Sharp wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:12:57AM -0700, Shawn Nematbakhsh wrote:
> > > > If a USB controller with XHCI_RESET_ON_RESUME goes to runtime suspend,
> > > > a reset will be performed upon runtime resume. Any previously suspended
> > > > devices attached to the controller will be re-enumerated at this time.
> > > > This will cause problems, for example, if an open system call on the
> > > > device triggered the resume (the open call will fail).
> > >
> > > That's ugly, but disabling runtime PM is going to have a big impact on
> > > the power consumption of those systems.
> > >
> > > Alan, do you think this is really the right thing to be doing here?  It
> > > feels like userspace should just be able to deal with devices
> > > disconnecting on resume.  After all, there are lots of USB devices that
> > > can't handle USB device suspend at all.
> >
> > This is a complicated issue.  It depends on the runtime PM settings for
> > both the device and the host controller.
> >
> > As just one aspect, consider the fact that if it wants to, userspace
> > can already prevent the controller from going into runtime suspend.
> > Always preventing this at the kernel level, even when no devices are
> > plugged in, does seem too heavy-handed.
> >
> > > Shouldn't userspace just disable runtime PM for the USB device classes
> > > that don't have a reset resume callback?
> >
> > That's not so easy, because the kernel changes over time.  Userspace
> > has no general way to tell which drivers have reset-resume support.
> >
> > > > Note that this change is only relevant when persist_enabled is not set
> > > > for USB devices.
> > >
> > > Could we at least wrap the call in an ifdef CONFIG_USB_DEFAULT_PERSIST?
> > > That way if people have USB persist turned off in their configuration,
> > > their host will still be able to suspend.
> >
> > Not just that; the patch is incorrect on the face of it...
> >
> > > > @@ -4687,6 +4687,12 @@ int xhci_gen_setup(struct usb_hcd *hcd,
> > xhci_get_quirks_t get_quirks)
> > > >
> > > >     get_quirks(dev, xhci);
> > > >
> > > > +   /* If we are resetting upon resume, we must disable runtime PM.
> > > > +    * Otherwise, an open() syscall to a device on our runtime
> > suspended
> > > > +    * controller will trigger controller reset and device
> > re-enumeration */
> > > > +   if (xhci->quirks & XHCI_RESET_ON_RESUME)
> > > > +           pm_runtime_get_noresume(dev);
> > > > +
> >
> > It adds a pm_runtime_get call with no corresponding pm_runtime_put.
> >
> > Alan Stern
> >
> >

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-09 17:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-24 18:12 [PATCH] usb: xhci: Disable runtime PM suspend for quirky controllers Shawn Nematbakhsh
2013-05-24 21:05 ` Sarah Sharp
2013-05-25 14:11   ` Alan Stern
2013-05-25 16:59     ` Shawn Nematbakhsh
     [not found]     ` <CALaWCOOGEDtF1z29df2ST9kV-VpMa9VbvFK0Hh71WJG5f_pngA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-05-28 20:58       ` Sarah Sharp
2013-05-28 21:41         ` Julius Werner
2013-05-29 14:23           ` Alan Stern
2013-05-29 19:38           ` Sarah Sharp
2013-05-29 20:11             ` Alan Stern
2013-05-29 20:32             ` Don Zickus
2013-06-03 11:33               ` Oliver Neukum
2013-08-09 17:22       ` Sarah Sharp [this message]
2013-08-12 15:49         ` Shawn Nematbakhsh

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