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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: Re-tune x86 uaccess code for PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY v2
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:56:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130814095604.GB10849@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1376438836-13339-1-git-send-email-andi@firstfloor.org>


Andi,

You _again_ 'forgot' to Cc: peterz who is an affected maintainer and who 
is keenly interested in such low level changes affecting scheduling - and 
he asked to be Cc:-ed on your previous submission.

I still don't understand, why do you *routinely* do office politics crap 
like that, playing games with Cc:s and private mails, which eminently 
hinders kernel development? (Oh, it's deniable and I'm quite sure you'll 
deny it in a heartbeat and call it an inadvertent omission. Just skip the 
excuses and stop it, ok?)

Thanks,

	Ingo

* Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:

> The x86 user access functions (*_user) were originally very well tuned,
> with partial inline code and other optimizations.
> 
> Then over time various new checks -- particularly the sleep checks for
> a voluntary preempt kernel -- destroyed a lot of the tunings
> 
> A typical user access operation is now doing multiple useless
> function calls. Also the without force inline gcc's inlining
> policy makes it even worse, with adding more unnecessary calls.
> 
> Here's a typical example from ftrace:
> 
>      10)               |    might_fault() {
>      10)               |      _cond_resched() {
>      10)               |        should_resched() {
>      10)               |          need_resched() {
>      10)   0.063 us    |            test_ti_thread_flag();
>      10)   0.643 us    |          }
>      10)   1.238 us    |        }
>      10)   1.845 us    |      }
>      10)   2.438 us    |    }
> 
> So we spent 2.5us doing nothing (ok it's a bit less without
> ftrace, but still pretty bad)
> 
> Then in other cases we would have an out of line function,
> but would actually do the might_sleep() checks in the inlined
> caller. This doesn't make any sense at all.
> 
> There were also a few other problems, for example the x86-64 uaccess
> code regularly falls back to string functions, even though a simple
> mov would be enough. For example every futex access to the lock
> variable would actually use string instructions, even though 
> it's just 4 bytes.
> 
> This patch kit is an attempt to get us back to sane code, 
> mostly by doing proper inlining and doing sleep checks in the right
> place. Unfortunately I had to add one tree sweep to avoid an nasty
> include loop.
> 
> v2: Now completely remove reschedule checks for uaccess functions.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-14  9:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-14  0:07 Re-tune x86 uaccess code for PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY v2 Andi Kleen
2013-08-14  0:07 ` [PATCH 1/8] x86: Add 1/2/4/8 byte optimization to 64bit __copy_{from,to}_user_inatomic Andi Kleen
2013-08-14  0:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-14  0:07 ` [PATCH 2/8] x86: Include linux/sched.h in asm/uaccess.h Andi Kleen
2013-08-14  0:07 ` [PATCH 3/8] tree-sweep: Include linux/sched.h for might_sleep users Andi Kleen
2013-08-14  0:07 ` [PATCH 4/8] Move might_sleep and friends from kernel.h to sched.h Andi Kleen
2013-08-14  0:07 ` [PATCH 5/8] sched: mark should_resched() __always_inline Andi Kleen
2013-08-14  0:07 ` [PATCH 6/8] Add might_fault_debug_only() Andi Kleen
2013-08-14  0:07 ` [PATCH 7/8] x86: Remove cond_resched() from uaccess code Andi Kleen
2013-08-14  0:07 ` [PATCH 8/8] sched: Inline the need_resched test into the caller for _cond_resched Andi Kleen
2013-08-14  9:56 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]

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