From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751123Ab3HSRWE (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 13:22:04 -0400 Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([93.93.128.6]:50990 "EHLO cavan.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750980Ab3HSRWC (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 13:22:02 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:21:39 +0100 From: Matthew Garrett To: James Bottomley Cc: David Woodhouse , "John W. Linville" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: UEFI Plugfest 2013 -- New Orleans Message-ID: <20130819172139.GA24393@srcf.ucam.org> References: <20130816152030.GL2133@tuxdriver.com> <1376900735.2322.26.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <20130819125507.GA19093@srcf.ucam.org> <1376925765.2069.24.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> <20130819160018.GA22532@srcf.ucam.org> <1376931775.2069.46.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1376931775.2069.46.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on cavan.codon.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:02:55AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote: > The object of having a test suite conform to the spec is not to > perpetuate the cockups that occurred in round one of the implementation > and to force everyone to pay closer attention to what the spec says. > Otherwise the amount of workarounds is just going to grow without > bounds. There's a benefit in having a test suite that prevents new errors from being introduced, but there's no benefit in failing on errors that we have to work around anyway. We have the code. We're never going to be able to remove the code. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org