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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: UEFI Plugfest 2013 -- New Orleans
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:47:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130819174743.GA25193@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1376933926.2069.52.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com>

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:38:46AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:

> It's not about us removing the code, it's about us having an accurate
> compliance test.  There are two reasons for having a fully correct
> compliance test
> 
>      1. Our work arounds have unintended consequences which have knock
>         on effects which mean that you don't know if a test failure is
>         real or an unintended consequence of a work around.

It doesn't matter. If a platform is supposed to run Linux 3.6 then it 
has to run Linux 3.6 regardless of whether or not the failure is due to 
a firmware bug or a bug in the kernel. The platform vendor will be 
obliged to fix it in the firmware no matter what the test suite says.

>      2. New features in specs tend to build on previous features, so
>         we're going to have a hard time constructing accurate tests for
>         layered features where we've done a work around for the base
>         feature.

Which is easily rectified if the specification is modified to describe 
reality instead.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-19 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-16 15:20 UEFI Plugfest 2013 -- New Orleans John W. Linville
2013-08-17  0:44 ` James Bottomley
2013-08-19  8:25 ` David Woodhouse
2013-08-19 12:55   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-08-19 15:22     ` James Bottomley
2013-08-19 16:00       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-08-19 17:02         ` James Bottomley
2013-08-19 17:21           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-08-19 17:38             ` James Bottomley
2013-08-19 17:47               ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2013-08-19 20:09               ` David Woodhouse
2013-08-19 20:19                 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-08-19 20:21                   ` David Woodhouse
2013-08-19 20:39                     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-08-19 21:06                       ` David Woodhouse
2013-08-19 21:30                         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-09-02  6:23                 ` Matt Fleming
2013-08-19 15:17   ` Borislav Petkov

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