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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Brad Spengler <spender@grsecurity.net>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Colin Walters <walters@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: PATCH? fix unshare(NEWPID) && vfork()
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:23:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130820192340.GA25441@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVC15BjcRMk2tc-SRT3tUr24057Zxt5ARQ-2Eq7RhjO2w@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/20, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On 08/20, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Currently (with or without your patch), vfork() followed by
> >> >> unshare(CLONE_NEWUSER) or unshare(CLONE_NEWPID) will unshare the VM.
> >> >
> >> > Could you spell please?
> >> >
> >> > We never unshare the VM. CLONE_VM in sys_unshare() paths just means
> >> > "fail unless ->mm is not shared".
> >> >
> >>
> >> Argh.  In that case this is probably buggy,
> >
> > I don't think so. Just we can't really unshare ->mm

this looks confusing, sorry. Afaics it is possible to implement
unshare(CLONE_VM), but

> or implement
> > unshare(CLONE_THREAD).

this is unlikely.

but this doesn't matter,

> We simply pretend it works if there is nothing
> > to unshare.
> >
> >> sys_unshare will see CLONE_NEWPID or CLONE_NEWUSER and set
> >> CLONE_THREAD.  Then it will see CLONE_THREAD and set CLONE_VM.
> >
> > This matches copy_process() to some degree... but looks confusing,
> > I agree.

I only mean that copy_process() requires CLONE_VM if CLONE_THREAD.
But, unlike unshare(), it fails if CLONE_VM is not set.

> Huh?  Doesn't this mean that unshare(CLONE_NEWPID); vfork() will work
> with your patches,

I hope,

> but vfork(); unshare(CLONE_NEWPID) will fail?  (I
> admit I haven't tested it.)

Do you mean that the child does unshare(CLONE_NEWPID) before exec?
It should fail with or without this patch.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-20 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-19 17:25 PATCH? fix unshare(NEWPID) && vfork() Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-19 17:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-19 17:51   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-19 18:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-19 18:33   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-19 18:40     ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-19 18:43       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-20 17:55         ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-08-20 18:45           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-20 20:52             ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-08-21 16:35               ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-22 16:47                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-20 17:59         ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-20 18:50           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-20 19:00             ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-20 19:05               ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-20 19:13                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-20 19:23                   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2013-08-20 19:38                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-21 12:24                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-20 20:25               ` Eric W. Biederman

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