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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Arjan van de Ven" <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	"Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao" <fernando_b1@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	"Frederic Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Tetsuo Handa" <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] nohz: Synchronize sleep time stats with seqlock
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:35:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130821113551.GA1472@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130821083130.GM3258@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 08/21, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 08:25:53PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 08/20, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 06:33:12PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> > > > +		if (unlikely(prev->in_iowait)) {
> > > > +			raw_spin_lock_irq(&rq->lock);
> > > > +			rq->nr_iowait--;
> > > > +			raw_spin_unlock_irq(&rq->lock);
> > > > +		}
> > >
> > > This seems like the wrong place, this is where you return from
> > > schedule() running another task,
> >
> > Yes, but prev is current, and rq should be "correct" for
> > rq->nr_iowait-- ?
>
> Yes its the right rq, but the wrong time.

Hmm. Just in case, it is not that I think this patch really makes sense,
but I'd like to understand why do you think it is wrong.

> > This local var should be equal to its value when this task called
> > context_switch() in the past.
> >
> > Like any other variable, like "rq = raw_rq()" in io_schedule().
> >
> > > not where the task you just send to
> > > sleep wakes up.
> >
> > sure, but currently io_schedule() does the same.
>
> No it doesn't. It only does the decrement when the task is woken back
> up. Not right after it switches out.

But it is not "after it switches out", it is after it switched back.

Lets ignore the locking,

	if (prev->in_iowait)
		rq->nr_iowait++;

	context_switch(prev, next);

	if (prev->in_iowait)
		rq->nr_iowait--;

>From the task_struct's (current's) pov prev/rq are the same, before or
after context_switch().

But from the CPU's pov they differ. And ignoring more details on UP the
code above is equivalent to

	if (prev->in_iowait)
		rq->nr_iowait++;

	if (next->in_iowait)
		rq->nr_iowait--;

	context_switch(prev, next);

No?

Yes, need_resched()/preemption can trigger more inc/dec's than io_schedule()
does, but I don't think this was your concern.

> > Btw. Whatever we do, can't we unify io_schedule/io_schedule_timeout?
>
> I suppose we could, a timeout of MAX_SCHEDULE_TIMEOUT will act like a
> regular schedule, but it gets all the overhead of doing
> schedule_timeout(). So I don't think its a win.

Well, the only overhead is "if(to == MAX_SCHEDULE_TIMEOUT)" at the start.
I don't think it makes sense to copy-and-paste the identical code to
avoid it. But please ignore, this is really minor and off-topic.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-21 11:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-16 15:42 [PATCH RESEND 0/4] nohz: Fix racy sleeptime stats Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-16 15:42 ` [PATCH 1/4] nohz: Only update sleeptime stats locally Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-18 16:49   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-18 21:38     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-18 17:04   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-19 18:05     ` Stratos Karafotis
2013-08-16 15:42 ` [PATCH 2/4] nohz: Synchronize sleep time stats with seqlock Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-16 16:02   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-16 16:20     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-16 16:26       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-16 16:46         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-16 16:49           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-16 17:12             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-18 16:36               ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-18 21:25                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-19 10:58               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-19 15:44                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-08-19 15:47                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-08-19 11:10           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-19 11:15             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-20  6:59             ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2013-08-20  8:44               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-20 15:29                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-20 15:33                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-08-20 15:35                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-20 15:41                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-08-20 15:31                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-08-20 16:01                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-20 16:33                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-20 17:54                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-20 18:25                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-21  8:31                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-21 11:35                             ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2013-08-21 12:33                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-21 14:23                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-21 16:41                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-10-01 14:05                                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-10-01 14:26                                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-10-01 14:27                                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-10-01 14:49                                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-10-01 15:00                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-01 15:21                                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-10-01 15:56                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-01 16:47                                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-10-01 16:59                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-02 12:45                                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-10-02 12:50                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-10-02 14:35                                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-10-02 16:01                                                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-21 12:48                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-21 17:09                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-21 18:31                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-21 18:32                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-20 22:18                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-21 11:49                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-20  6:21           ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2013-08-20 21:55             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-16 16:32     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-16 16:33       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-16 16:49         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-16 16:37       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-18 16:54   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-18 21:40     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-16 15:42 ` [PATCH 3/4] nohz: Consolidate sleep time stats read code Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-18 17:00   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-18 21:47     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-16 15:42 ` [PATCH 4/4] nohz: Convert a few places to use local per cpu accesses Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-16 16:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-16 16:12     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-16 16:19     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-16 16:34       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-20 18:15 ` [PATCH RESEND 0/4] nohz: Fix racy sleeptime stats Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-21  8:28   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-21 11:42     ` Oleg Nesterov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-05-07 13:41 [PATCH 1/4] nohz: Only update sleeptime stats locally Denys Vlasenko
2014-05-07 13:41 ` [PATCH 2/4] nohz: Synchronize sleep time stats with seqlock Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-24 18:45 [PATCH 1/4] nohz: Only update sleeptime stats locally Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-24 18:45 ` [PATCH 2/4] nohz: Synchronize sleep time stats with seqlock Denys Vlasenko
2013-08-09  0:54 [PATCH 0/4] nohz: Fix racy sleeptime stats Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-09  0:54 ` [PATCH 2/4] nohz: Synchronize sleep time stats with seqlock Frederic Weisbecker

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