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From: Robert Richter <rric@kernel.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Vince Weaver <vince@deater.net>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Vince Weaver <vincent.weaver@maine.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 12/12] [RFC] perf, persistent: ioctl functions to control persistency
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 11:45:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130823094556.GB10223@rric.localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130823091128.GA19548@nazgul.tnic>

On 23.08.13 11:11:28, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 02:18:06PM -0400, Vince Weaver wrote:
> > > PERF_EVENT_IOC_ATTACH (Since Linux 3.xx)
> > > PERF_EVENT_IOC_DETACH (Since Linux 3.xx)
> > 
> > I think these aren't very good names for the ioctls.  Maybe something
> > like
> >   PERF_EVENT_IOC_MAKE_PERSISTENT
> >   PERF_EVENT_IOC_UNPERSIST
> > I know that last one's not a real word but I can't think of what the 
> > proper term would be.  Maybe
> >   PERF_EVENT_IOC_RELEASE_PERSISTENT
> >   PERF_EVENT_IOC_RECLAIM_PERSISTENT
> 
> "aren't very good names" is not really an argument I can work with. Why
> not? What if you want to attach/detach to events but not be persistent.
> Which also begs the question how long are we persistent? The whole
> system runtime or until the user decides to detach.
> 
> So ATTACH/DETACH in the sense of attaching processes to events for an
> arbitrary amount of time *and* *not* for the duration of the tracee
> as we do it currently implicitly, is much more generic wrt usage than
> specifying that specific persistent case.

Ok, for clarification, my intention was to say something like 'detach
event from the current process controlling it', or 'attach the event
to the current process that holds the fd'.

Whatever term is the best for this ioctls, I am fine with it. The
above terms look a bit long.

The problem with detach/attach is more that it's actually more
logically to attach first and afterwards detach. This is not the case
here, it's vise versa.

-Robert

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-23  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-22 14:13 [PATCH v3 00/12] perf, persistent: Add persistent events Robert Richter
2013-08-22 14:13 ` [PATCH v3 01/12] perf, mmap: Factor out ring_buffer_detach_all() Robert Richter
2013-08-22 14:13 ` [PATCH v3 02/12] perf, mmap: Factor out try_get_event()/put_event() Robert Richter
2013-08-22 14:13 ` [PATCH v3 03/12] perf, mmap: Factor out perf_alloc/free_rb() Robert Richter
2013-08-22 14:13 ` [PATCH v3 04/12] perf, mmap: Factor out perf_get_fd() Robert Richter
2013-08-22 14:13 ` [PATCH v3 05/12] perf: Add persistent events Robert Richter
2013-08-22 14:13 ` [PATCH v3 06/12] mce, x86: Enable " Robert Richter
2013-08-22 14:13 ` [PATCH v3 07/12] perf, persistent: Implementing a persistent pmu Robert Richter
2013-08-22 14:13 ` [PATCH v3 08/12] perf, persistent: Exposing persistent events using sysfs Robert Richter
2013-08-22 18:00   ` Vince Weaver
2013-08-23  9:37     ` Robert Richter
2013-08-23 16:39       ` Vince Weaver
2013-08-27 11:16         ` Robert Richter
2013-08-22 14:13 ` [PATCH v3 09/12] perf, persistent: Use unique event ids Robert Richter
2013-08-22 14:13 ` [PATCH v3 10/12] perf, persistent: Implement reference counter for events Robert Richter
2013-08-22 14:13 ` [PATCH v3 11/12] perf, persistent: Dynamically resize list of sysfs entries Robert Richter
2013-08-22 14:13 ` [PATCH v3 12/12] [RFC] perf, persistent: ioctl functions to control persistency Robert Richter
2013-08-22 18:18   ` Vince Weaver
2013-08-23  9:11     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-23  9:45       ` Robert Richter [this message]
2013-08-23 10:44         ` Robert Richter
2013-08-23 11:34           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-23 17:07             ` Vince Weaver
2013-08-23 19:39               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-23 21:08                 ` Vince Weaver
2013-08-23 21:09                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-27 11:54                   ` Robert Richter
2013-08-27 12:22                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-27 12:41                       ` Robert Richter
2013-08-27 12:48                         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-23 10:07     ` Robert Richter
2013-08-27 12:17       ` Robert Richter
2013-08-24  9:38 ` [PATCH v3 00/12] perf, persistent: Add persistent events Borislav Petkov
2013-08-27 12:27   ` Robert Richter
2013-08-27 12:38     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-03-28 14:54       ` Jean Pihet
2014-03-29  9:42         ` Borislav Petkov

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