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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Brad Spengler <spender@grsecurity.net>
Subject: [PATCH 0/1] proc: make /proc/self point to thread
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 16:39:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130827143938.GA19425@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwAw=AZNqmDNip_P6WiY4zGRNWks-kLwN7ZgJ8JJsAx-A@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/26, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > Patch looks ok to me, but since this has never worked and nobody has
> > actually complained, I can't really convince myself that this is
> > critical.
>
> Actually, let's back-track..
>
> Did you try the other approach? Make /proc/self point to the thread
> instead of the task?

Yes, I thought about this. But I agree with Eric, we probably need
another magic link, /proc/thread or whatever.

And. I think that s/task_pid/task_tgid/ in proc_fd_permission()
makes sense anyway. It is not only for /proc/self, why we should
restrict the access to /proc/<sub-thread>/fd ?

> The thread-group leader seems to have these extra files:
>
>  - autogroup, coredump_filter, mountstats, net, task
>

Note really afaics. Yes, tgid_base_stuff and tid_base_stuff differ,
but proc_root_lookup() uses tgid_base_stuff in any case, so
/proc/<tid>/ also has task,mountstats,etc even if it is not leader.

> Yes, it would be semantically different,

And I am afraid this can break things. But I leave this to you and Eric.

Personally I think that /proc/self pointing to "current" is better, and
in fact I was surprised when I recently found that this is not true.
But perhaps it is too late to change this old behaviour.

> but it would mean that
> "/proc/self/fd/" would actually make sense in a way that it currently
> does *not* - which would seem fairly important, since the primary use
> for it tends to be /dev/stdin.

I think this doesn't matter "in practice", normally all threads have
the same ->files. Who needs CLONE_THREAD without CLONE_FILES ?

> And the other semantic differences might be much harder to notice.
> Worth testing?

Perhaps... Well, if Andrew takes this patch (assuming you and Eric
ack it), we can see if we have any bug reports.

Oleg.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-27 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-21 19:14 [PATCH v2] vfs: Tighten up linkat(..., AT_EMPTY_PATH) Andy Lutomirski
     [not found] ` <CA+55aFxi-ps2f2M8xPhfbuQ0pToqupPrDsLi2+GPUK2sqdYfUw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <CALCETrW7+LcexA6v6RQDKhni_yJAduOmiSDneCpq3v8sPDvwUQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-08-21 20:16     ` Willy Tarreau
2013-08-22 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-22 18:53   ` Willy Tarreau
2013-08-22 19:05     ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-22 19:23       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-22 20:10         ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-22 20:15           ` Willy Tarreau
2013-08-22 20:22             ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-22 20:44               ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-22 20:48                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-22 20:54                   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-22 20:58                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-23  1:07                     ` Al Viro
2013-08-25  3:37                       ` Al Viro
2013-08-25  7:26                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-25 14:23                           ` Al Viro
2013-08-25 17:04                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-25 19:57                         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-25 20:06                           ` Al Viro
2013-08-25 20:23                             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-26 17:37                               ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-26 18:07                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-26 18:11                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-27 19:16                                   ` [RFC PATCH] fs: Add user_file_or_path_at and use it for truncate Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-27 19:32                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-27 20:28                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-28  6:16                                         ` Al Viro
2013-08-28 16:24                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-28 19:04                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-28 19:59                                             ` Al Viro
2013-08-28 21:07                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-27 23:08                                     ` Al Viro
2013-08-27 23:13                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-24 18:29             ` /proc/pid/fd && anon_inode_fops Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-24 21:24               ` Willy Tarreau
2013-08-25  5:23                 ` Al Viro
2013-08-25  6:50                   ` Willy Tarreau
2013-08-25 18:51                     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-25 19:48                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-25 20:05                         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-26 15:33                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-26 16:37                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-26 17:54                               ` [PATCH] proc: make proc_fd_permission() thread-friendly Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-26 18:09                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-26 19:35                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-26 20:20                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2013-08-27 15:05                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-27 14:39                                     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2013-08-27 14:40                                       ` [PATCH 1/1] proc: make /proc/self point to thread Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-27 16:39                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-27 17:49                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-27 18:15                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-27 18:28                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                     ` <CALCETrXP-mYBPRon=0NzexW1FK1Qxz2+Bwv7-WeHBQpvW7ywRg@mail.gmail.com>
2013-08-27 15:45                                       ` [PATCH] proc: make proc_fd_permission() thread-friendly Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-26 18:32                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-08-26 18:46                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-26 18:56                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-26 19:10                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-08-27 14:53                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-25 18:32                   ` /proc/pid/fd && anon_inode_fops Linus Torvalds
2013-08-25 19:11                     ` Al Viro
2013-08-25 19:17                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-09-03 15:58                     ` Pavel Machek
2013-08-25 15:45                 ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]               ` <20130825051044.GY27005@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
     [not found]                 ` <20130825155348.GB25922@redhat.com>
     [not found]                   ` <CALCETrXrtP2C+g=QeNWK4EMctmonW91kWoO1xmy7rDmEj__1Dw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <20130825174936.GA30957@redhat.com>
2013-08-25 17:55                       ` [PATCH 0/1] anon_inodefs: forbid open via /proc Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-25 17:55                         ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-22 19:39       ` [PATCH v2] vfs: Tighten up linkat(..., AT_EMPTY_PATH) Willy Tarreau

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